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lunitume's picture
"rakeback" at stars after reaching SN

Hey i am just curious, how big is basically rakeback on pokerstars,. I mean the points u can change for $$$ - does it work like that? I would appreciate it if someone could write % of rakeback per level u are at stars. And is Super Nova achievable playing only HU sng's with 57.50$ uy ins - so with $2.5 rake every time, if i play like 50 games per day?

xSCWx's picture
Supernova

I don't know many of the specifics, but I think that 50 games a day in the $55s would allow you to hit Supernova really easily.
I believe it is 5 VPPs per dollar of rake you pay. I'm not sure if the 50 cents rounds up or not, but at 12.5 VPPs per game that is only 22 games per day if you play every day of the year.

another_rack's picture
 I think you'll need to

 I think you'll need to play 8000 sng's in a year at those stakes to make Supernova. I don't know the exact numbers but I believe that Supernova is better than 27% rakeback on FTP.
 
As for how it works, check out the Pokerstars VIP program page on Stars website

RyPac13's picture
There have been extensive

There have been extensive threads on this on 2p2's "internet poker" forum.  I believe SNE gives you 35-50% rb.
Supernova, on the other hand, is something like 25-30% I believe.

lunitume's picture
yup, just found it on

yup, just found it on two+two. The moment i get to SN i wil lhave better "rakeback" deal than on fulltil, and its even better when SNE - but no way i can get to that, although is a bit of animal in me, or quite a lot of heavy grinding wow player (back in the time i played that addictive game alot, but now i simply hate it :) )
Any of u guys SNE? Do u get many VIP promotions?

RyPac13's picture
Skates and Croix are

Skates and Croix are supernova elites.
I am supernova, or actually was.  I lost it on March for like less than 500 vpps, I just didn't even pay attention and with vacation and some laziness I didn't play the amount I normally do.  So now I won't be nova again for a few months.  But I had it last year as well, it's nice, and kind of annoying that I let it go like that, but I don't think it cost me very much money compared to what tilting off a few buyins would cost me.

Skates's picture
 Supernova is 28% rakeback

 Supernova is 28% rakeback for HUSNGs before bonuses (and that's once you get Supernova)
Supernova Elite is some absurdly high percentage.  It's 40% rakeback for HUSNGs before bonuses.  If you have SNE for the whole year, then you generate 80k in rakeback and get ~60k (a little more) in bonuses/packages for 200k in paid rake, so that's about 70% rakeback.  It's even sicker when you notice that every month there are SNE-only events that are added value.  For instance, I made the all-star team through the SNE tournament.
I am SNE.  I get lots of VIP promotions.  It's super cool.

RyPac13's picture
Actually I don't believe

Actually I don't believe Croix got it last year.  I think he's more than on pace to get it this year though.

PrimordialAA's picture
I believe supernova elite

I believe supernova elite can provide up to 65% rakeback,
supernova is default 28%, but like, if you hit 400k VPP, your getting 36 or 38% or something, the calculation would be like this:
 
assuming you were SN the year before
 
 
[400,000 (VPP)  *  3.5 ]  -  [ 50,000 * 3  (for bonuses) ]   / 31,000      * 500   (the value of FPP via concierge)     + 2k + 3k + 4k
 
(   [400000 * 3.5 ] - [ 50,000 * 3]  ) / 31,000     * 500  +2k + 3k + 4k
(1,400,000 - 150,000 )  /  31,000  * 500 + 2k + 3k +4k
( 1,250,000 / 31,000) * 500 + 2k + 3k + 4k
$20,161  + 2k +3k + 4k   (note, these 2k, 3k, 4k are the milestone bonuses, they cost 50k FPP each)
$29,161  , and to get to 400k VPP  (cost's 80k in rake to get to 400k)
29,161 / 80,000   =  36.45%  , so hitting 400k rakeback is ~36.45% rakeback, calculation will obv work for anything to figure it out