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sadbeats's picture
Moving up to 20€/game

Hi guys,

 

this month i sticked to my plan, i only played turbo 10 €/game on pokerstars.fr , i managed to play 457 of them and made a profit of 607€ for a 12.7% ROI.

I've managed to not tilt a lot, i only played short sessions. I had only six losing days.

Next month, i want to play the 20€ games, how many % of my ROI do you think i risk to lose at this level ? Do you think players are a lot better ?

sadbeats's picture
nobody ?

nobody ?

mrbeast87's picture
Hey sadbeats, you achieved

Hey sadbeats, you achieved great results, congratulations on that!

As always, you can expect an increased skill level in villains when moving up. But in your case, even if your ROI drops by half (which I think is an exaggerated assumption), you are still making the same money you do on the 10€'s, so go for it!

By the way, why are you playing the pokerstars.fr site, where the rake is huge? Do you find the competition softer?

He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man. -- Samuel Johnson

sadbeats's picture
thanks mate. In fact, i play

thanks mate.

In fact, i play on ps.fr because i am french and i don't have any other choice.. i would like to play on ps.com but i can't

I've been playing poker for a few years now but i think my tilt problem has prevented me from moving up.

I will take a serious shot at 20's when i ll reach 1k euros because i can't afford to lose my bankroll, this time i want to move up for good .

Guys, Do you think  i could post a video of one of my game so that you could point out some of my mistakes ?

Joko's picture
  Hi Sadbeat, I'm a french

  Hi Sadbeat,

I'm a french player too, and in the same situation as you (playing 10€ and gonna move up to 20€).

My screenname is wjokow

If you want we can work on our game together... (mp me on clubpoker Jokotek)

vherreral's picture
I play there too. I'm curious

I play there too. I'm curious what sort of action u've found on the 10s, last year i was able to move up to 50s-200s, but since this year started action on turbos has been almost dead on 50s/100s, and 200s i dunno as i stopped playing them due to a downswing by the end of the year

VHL

sadbeats's picture
I am having trouble since the

I am having trouble since the beginning of the month, due to some massive tilt and donk play ....

I think i 'll have to stick to 10's one more month to built a serious roll for the 20's

Is there any people who stake french players ??

 

vherreral's picture
Never done that, but it could

Never done that, but it could be interesting, add me on skype and tell me more about it if u're serious about looking for a stake.

skype: vherreral1

VHL

Joko's picture
Game is pretty good on 10s,

Game is pretty good on 10s, not waiting to much for a match and opponents are usually bad players. Not too much regs war until 50s, but u right on 100s+ there is not a lot of action... 

sadbeats's picture
The 20's so far

This month I've been playing a few 20 euros games, 105 until now for 12.8 % ROI (303 € ), players have the same skill level that the 10 euros.

I also tried to play a few regs that don't battle each other and wait for fishes for hours to sit them, I played  3 of them at the 30's and 50's and they are not good.. they achieved good results but i think they really avoid playing people who know a little bit about HU. I have to play a few hundred games at the 20's first but i think i'm going to take a shot at them when my bankroll will allow me to do so. I want to play like 400 more games at the 20's before moving to the 30's.

I still have some big leaks in 3 bet pot against aggressive players, i think I'm calling too wide and it costs me a lot of money

 

vherreral's picture
Lots of times ive played for

Lots of times ive played for the 1st time vs a reg and looks like they're not gud, then i keep playing and realize that a lot of them will adjust and they end being way better than I first thought.  When u move up to 50s u sure can batlle them, and if u have a +roi then keep battling them, but u'll have to start avoiding them if u can't beat the rake on a large sample vs them. Unfortunately u'll have to start looking for another sites or some other formats as turbo husngs action has decreased enourmously on 50s+ there

VHL

sadbeats's picture
Yes i think you're right, not

Yes i think you're right, not a lot of action at the 50's + games. Anyway,  i still have to grind my way to these stakes and i'll see then !

For the other format, not a lot of choices, can't play the hyper with more than 6% in rake; i may try to play on other sites but not a lot of choice either : winamax (i don't like the software ...) Do you know any other good sites ?

I would like to play 1000 games at the 20's and 30's before playing the 50's, we'll see how it goes for me ...

vherreral's picture
Yh winamax software has alot

Yh winamax software has alot of room to improve imo, and u notice it even more if u're used to play on pokerstars software.And rb in winamax is worse than pokerstars, it starts being decent til u're "diamond 2 carat", and u're forced to battle regs more cuz u just have 2 tables for each stake, and some say that the level on winamax is better than in stars .fr,

The nice thing about winamax is that if u have a nice winning rate ur rb will be increased with the weekly sng leaderboards where they give money to the top 15 places.

VHL

sadbeats's picture
Hi guys, still dont know how

Hi guys, still dont know how to post a graph here... But all i can say is that the last 4 days have been bad ...

On the last 22 20's games, i won 6 games.... ( what the fck ??) I 've been playing quite bad and running awful... i think i'm going to stick to the 10's for a few days because i can't redeposit so i have to be really careful with my bankroll. I played some really bad players but i lost against them

If someone has a good avice for those types of moments, i'm listening

 

cdon3822's picture
Err .. On the bright side

Err ..

On the bright side they weren't $5k buyin tournaments ;)

sadbeats's picture
hyper on pokerstars.fr

I did some stupid stuffs this month... I only played 139  20 euros games (turbo) for a 4,1 % ROI... ( bad )

i played 146  10 euros games(turbo )  for a 13 % ROI ( not so bad !)

The bad part is that i tried to play hypers again ...... and with a good 6.4% of rake, i played 488 for a fantastic 0.2 % roi ( i lost 72 euros )

I don't know if i will ever understand that i  CANNOT play hyper on ps.fr ....

I have to stick to turbos, turbos, and nothing else !

I played 9791 hyper turbo games for 1,4 % roi : + 219 euros and PAID 3934 euros of rake !! I've checked the stats of many players and i didn't find one winner in hyper turbos on ps.fr.  I have to work my game and try to play the 50's a least in a few month ..

Do you think GREENBAST turbo pack really can help me beat the 20,30 and 50's ??

 

marrage's picture
Hi sadbeats, on winamax you

Hi sadbeats,

 

on winamax you can exclude yourself from playing "expresso" and "hypers" it can help you

if you do not have enough action on PS.f so you can split your bankroll between PS.fr and winamax.fr, I will probably do that when I will ready to move up on 30€

 

I am back in the business too and i am playing 20€ on winamax  from the beginning of the month , I changed my screen name, all the regs seat me but it's fine, they are not that good they just 3bet a lot....

 

You can add me on skype if you want to talk about poker. marrge64/steuf11

vherreral's picture
Top hyper players on ps.fr

Top hyper players on ps.fr are blocked on sharkscope, so I don't know for sure, but my guess is they're not stupid. 

Before getting in2 hypers I was debating between buying an hyper video pack or paying a coach to teach me hypers... I chose the latter, and it's just been 2 months since I started playing them but seems like that has been my best investment pokerwise speaking.

VHL