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LJH2100's picture
Endgame

What strategy is proven to be best for husng endgame?  Nash?  SAGE? I want to heavily study the endgame but I don't want to study the wrong material or multiple materials yet as I have limited time to devote to studying.Thanks

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hey ljh. As far as I know,

hey ljh. As far as I know, the short answer you're probably fishing for is Nash.  I believe SAGE is slightly less accurate and I believe it only works at 7BB or below.  However, your question: "What strategy is proven to be best for husng endgame?" doesn't necessarily merit not a one-word answer ;p.  The strategy proven to be best for HUSNG endgames is absolutely dependent on your opponent's exploitable weaknesses.  A while ago, I made the mistake of using the Nash Equilibrium whenever I got to about 20BB.  Nowadays, I only use it when I get under about 12, and only against a good, capable opponent.  When opponents aren't as good, I find it much more profitable to develop a endgame plan that plays off their weaknesses.  For example, if they are constantly raising their buttons 20BB or fewer deep, I start jamming on them with a wider range than I normally would.  If you're 10BB deep and you have 97s, Nash says jam, but if you realize he's really playing nitty preflop, just minraise.  If he's calling a lot preflop but playing tight postflop, just limp the 97s and barrel almost every flop instead to exploit his glaring weaknesses.  If he's a player that won't jam over you light at 12BB, but calls you minraises a lot, start opening to 3x instead to get that fold equity and when he jams you can comfortably fold and not feel bad about it.  In that same spot, you could've jammed and been snapped off by 99 or AQs against a player you're better than.  This is just something I've learned and something to think about. And if you knew all this and were just asking about sage vs. nash at least I answered that haha. gl :)

LJH2100's picture
I did read somewhere NOT to

I did read somewhere NOT to use the NASH "calling guide" and you should just use your reads and ranges that you are putting the opponent on unless they are absolutely using the NASH system to shove.  The article or post can't remember also compared Chubulov*sp* into the line-up and that seemed to be the best from what I was reading. 

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yeah sorry i didn't specify,

yeah sorry i didn't specify,  I don't use the nash calling guide, only the one for shoving.  And i'm also pretty sure there's a thread about this somewhere on 2p2