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Borg7's picture
ROI in the stars turbos/reg speeds

hi,what is considered a good (very good) ROI for the turbos and the reg speeds on stars?

ravage's picture
What stakes?  

What stakes? 

Borg7's picture
$55-$110s

$55-$110s

RyPac13's picture
The highest ROI for over 1k

The highest ROI for over 1k games in the $115 turbos on Stars that I've ever seen was 10-11% from PlowKing and Bartchalker.  However, both were single tabling and I believe they also (at least Chalker) game select a bit.You're also likely to see that the highest ROI players have also ran the best.  For example, say you took 10 players with a 7% true ROI.  They each play 1k games.  A few might be at 4% ROI, a few at 6% ROI, one or two at 8% ROI and one or two at 10% ROI.  They are equally skilled.  That's just how variance goes, there's always going to be extremes/outliers, at least in relatively small samples (and even 10k games at 5% ROI isn't enough to be certain of your ROI, especially conisdering it changes vs each player, it changes as you play good or bad, the field changes over time, you change and so on).So in the $115s, if you're single tabling, shoot for 10%.  But be happy with anything over 5%, always working on improving your game.$55s, you can add a few % pts to it, but the stakes shouldn't play a ton differently, so maybe you're looking at 7-12% instead of 5-10% being the range the best players hit, give or take.  My best long sample was 7% two tabling $115s, though my first 1500 games or so I was between 1-3% ROI and it really was a struggle mentally (this was winter 2007 through part of 2008).  If there's one thing I would change from that time period, it would be my close mindedness to new ideas.  Keep an open mind and realize you're never as good as you think on your upswings and never as bad as you think when you're lacking confidence.  If you can start to see the bigger picture, even the worst short term variance won't even touch your mentality.  But you need to really think about it and work on it if you want to have an ironclad mentality.  Ignoring it or saying "well that's just who I am, I tilt sometimes" is going to be a negative, even if you make a ton of money overall.

RyPac13's picture
Kind of tangented there a bit

Kind of tangented there a bit :)