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soulouri's picture
Anyone else struggle at landmark games?

Just curious, but I always find the hardest games are either at $99 ($199, $299) wen you're abot to move into the next number set, or right on the border of moving up in stake, if I tell myself just 2-3 more buy ins then i'll move up I always ended up going on a massive downswing.Recently I just played 7 turbos and won the first 3, was confident and playing well, then i lost 4 in a row by being rivered to a gutshot.  In the final game the guy shoved on the turn and I happily called with my top pair only to see a gutshot and I shed a small tear even before it connected on the flop.I love HUSNG and i'm going to take a short break to let the rage die down, then carry on, and this is a tiny swong compared to what has happened to myself and other people but I'm tilted pretty hard from that last one and couldn't find a tilt thread on here :)Cliffs: Grinding close to one of your 'milestones' then losing 4 buyins in a row to the same stupid 9% chance gutshot is depressing/aggrivating.

MrJayOMG's picture
Don't allow it to be a

Don't allow it to be a psychological barrier, if you are moving up do it gradually to get used to the next level.If it's variance you unhappy about, I guess you should tackle it head on & deal with it!

soulouri's picture
The funny thing is I am

The funny thing is I am pretty happy with my game and working to improve it all the time, but when losing 4-5 buyins vs people making such fundamental mistakes it can knock your confidence and a similar thing happens to me when trying to move up, in my head it's like grinding out $300 at the $5 games doesn't matter because i just lost 10 in a row so maybe I was just running hot.I kind of wish I had the self discipline to not look at sharkscope or the cashier for a long time, maybe just check once per week, but I fear this may be too difficult.

MrJayOMG's picture
I do agree, I recently read

I do agree, I recently read Leatherass' book & one of the points he raised was he doesn't look at the cashier. It's something I've tried myself but always find it tough, but then on FT/PS it brings up your balance whenever you enter a HUSNG. However, this is something that I'm still going at & the only goals I set my self on a monthly basis is volume targets, my limit is decided at the start. It kinda works for me right now, but I guess you have to find your own way.It does sound like your issue is the variance, I've found the variance graph on this site quite useful. One issue I've had is having a short session where I start out winning the first 5 then finish up losing the last 4 but overall the session can be 6-4, I was telling myself this was a bad session because I've lost 4 games when I started with a big lead & I expected to only lose 1 or 2. But the reality is it's still a +10% ROI.The fish are generally always gonna play badly, just keep going, do the right things & the results will happen. 

RyPac13's picture
I like MrJay's points

I like MrJay's points here.It's going to be purely a mental issue and one that is best dealt with by tackling it head on.A greater understanding of variance and common mental issues should really help you improve when moving up to stakes you consider more significant than usual.

soulouri's picture
holy hell I just dropped 5

holy hell I just dropped 5 buy ins to a guy that 3x'd 100% of his buttons.  Overbet every single flop from any position.  Called any bets with any overcard to the board.Lost 2 games in a row from this sort of pattern.Me: QJhim: J7Flop: Q82 (pot 180) him: bet 210 me: raise 500 him: callTurn: Q829 (pot 1180) him: 200 me: All in him: callRiver Q82910 (pot 3000)Literally, he is the ideal opponent you want to play, no moves required, just play your strong hands and wait to connect with the flop and he'll pay you off every single the time - the problem is accross 5 games he didn't miss one river (and folded twice when I had AA - pretty sure they were his only 2 preflop folds)Feel like smashing my monitor :/

LJH2100's picture
I tend to laugh it off

I tend to laugh it off (literally) when I get bad beated especially if there's still chips on the table and I can still win.  I get tilted by my own dumb calls or bad plays then it just compounds from there so thats the tilt I'm working on.  To answer your post title question, yes, I struggle with landmark games as well, just a couple of weeks ago, I was approaching $800 bankroll and ready to hit the $23s hard, then suddenly I just couldn't win the good calls and I made bad calls and now I'm at like $470!!  So, I've excluded myself from playing and am just reading Moshman's book over and watching vids on here.  Honestly though, I was probably running hot because I really wasn't having to make a lot of tough calls or anything of that nature then when the time came where I needed to I was making many mistakes (hence massive downswing).  So it's better to have had this reality check at such a small bankroll rather than later when I've moved to the 30s or 50s and think that I'm a good player, it would be a lot hard psychologically to see a over $1K BR start diminishing. The most logical thing happening to you though, is that FT found out that you joined husng.com and RyPac and his team of cronies create regs that withdraw a lot so they are just eliminating you before you start taking back from your investment...joking of course*for the record I don't believe in the doomsday switch or whatever its called

soulouri's picture
jesus christ FML lol Im using

jesus christ FML lolIm using this as my official tilt thread :)Took a shot at $11s with a $250 BR, ran ok got up to $296 then starting running just ... awful.  Last game I shipped on the turn with JJ on K852 board and get called by 67 (no flush draw) river 5.... sigh.  down to $251 think i'll drop down to the $6 to get some confidence back, if i win a couple of these will go back up again :/