Play SB under 13BIt is possible to have a min-raise/fold range under 13BB( its my ''cutoff''against unknow)?shorter , I use NASHI do it (min Raise/Fold) sometime against tight passive player. Even with thoses players, am not sure where is the limit?-10BB?-7BB?Hope to have more info
i think against a tight-passive opp you might be able to get away with a min-raise/fold range with 13bbs. However if it was me, I'd stick to NASH this low, just my personal take on it as I don't know too much about endgame play(yet). For those of you regs reading this, please don't sit me :P
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around 13BB I was thinking about hands like Q6o J7o T4s etc.I like to min raise/ fold those hands against tight players.I mix up with ``top pair`` hands (QJo+,AT+)that I min raise/call a shove.(and very happy to see a flop!) Whith others hands(doesn'T play wheel post flop)I prefer to push according to nash. I might even limp only a very strong range. My point is--is this kind of strategy way to much transparent against thinking opponent?(work very wheel against weak player imo)
It really depends how often the thinking opponent is folding (and shoving). 8-9bb is generally the lowest I ever minraise (without the intention of calling) and it's pretty infrequent.Plenty of tighter thinking players misthink in that area and just assume you're spewing chips by raising every hand, when in fact it's a great strategy if they're only shoving 15-20% of hands.I'd watch Mersenneary's end game videos closely and probably mess around with some of the free tools such as stox ev sitngowiz or anything else that allows you to plug in ranges to check the equity of various range vs range strategies.
Nice to have your advices Ryan. I'll work on that , and certainely come back with another question around this topic
hi there, as rypac said, use STOX EV to give in some of these strategy with opponent ranges and see whether u can find a CO, I usually use following strategy against tight passive players because its pretty straight forward and doenst bring up close in game EV spots where u don't know what to do.dunno what stakes u play but, my experience 1-20$s tells me that it is usually very profitable to mix in limps against tight passive, because u will get a hit or fold postflop and steal it more often then not there,my strategy against these guys is usually to open-shove good showdown hands but hands that would perform poorly when called or hands u rather don't call a shove with from a tight passive guy, like 22-77, some weaker AX hands KQs etc. Some of these hands u probably can call a shove profitable with, but i prefere to stick them in myselve for some FE. My stronger hands like 88-JJ AK AQ i'll probably minraise-call, and my nut hands will depend on the dynamics of the game, if i didn't limp for a while i probably limp to look weak, if i minraised a lot allready i probably minraise again with AA-KK-QQ etc, and when i have been shoving a lot lately ill shove them because unless this guy is a complete nit he'll probably start widening his calling range as wellDon't know about hte Tight players above the 20$s but for me this is a solid strategy unde 15BB against tight passive players.Rypac or other coach: does your playing style early in the game, influence the perception people have about ur endgame strongly or is there not much metagaming going on there? I'll watch Ms. videos about the topic and hopefully find that out soon :) cheers
Such a loaded question! But a good one at that.Generally the more thinking and stronger a player is, the more my play will influence his/he'll adapt and change gears against me by the end of the game and play off of what he's seen out of me. That part might be obvious.On the other hand, many players often have (and especially in the end game) their own "way" of doing things that they are comfortable with. Those are the guys you really want to watch out for, and it happens with otherwise top flight players all the wya down to losing players. By watch out I mean you want to recognize that they are playing their own sort of end game strategy, rarely adapting or straying from it and you should absolutely gather as much information that you can to exploit that strategy.Otherwise, the biggest guys that adjust or totally play a certain way against me due to prior actions I've taken are going to be the frustrated/tilting players. They see you raised a lot of buttons so they just start shoving (and probably correctly so). They see you cbet a lot so they start bluffing. There's still ways to combat these players (just bc they are shoving wider which is usually good if you open wide it won't mean they are shoving a range that cannot be exploited, or you can try a mixed strategy between limping and raising, or even just minraise your stronger hands if they are shoving super wide)." some weaker AX hands KQs etc."I wouldn't open shove these hands for sure. It depends the type of player you are often up against, but many players will shove over a minraise with hands such as 98, 87, 97, and even K-rag, Q-rag hands, yet they will not call an open shove 10-15bbs deep with these hands. Against those players, minraise and calling with Ax, Kx and some lower PPs (down to 44-55 probably) is going to be a lot better than open shoving (the PPs can get nittier up to 66 or so if the player calls a ton OOP and isn't easy to play postflop).More often than not there is a clear better strategy than open shoving 12-15bb deep (outside of small PPs which are the major exception) so if you're just open shoving a lot at those blinds, consider some alternative plays (watching Mersenneary's end game videos is a good starting point, there's even on available to standard members).