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No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$5 + $0.25 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero1340 BBAnkur Chandra1660  Effective Stacks: 67bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, Ankur Chandra calls 40 Flop (120, 2 players) Ankur Chandra checks, Hero bets 100, Ankur Chandra raises to 200, Hero calls 100 Turn (520, 2 players) Ankur Chandra bets 120, Hero raises to 410, Ankur Chandra goes all-in 1400, Hero goes all-in 670 River (3000, 2 players, 2 all-in) Final Pot: 3000 Hero shows two pair, Aces and Nines Ankur Chandra shows two pair, Nines and Fives Hero wins 2680 ( won +1340 ) Ankur Chandra lost -1340 The questions I have about hands of this type are.Do you think he played it wrong until the turn when I reraised?  Is that how you would often play it?  One big mistake he made was the small bet on the turn.  I read that as at best a jack.  And his shove seemed weak.  Are you ever getting away from AA in this situation?I think a check raise on the flop on a paired board is weak looking.  If his line had been call flop and check raise the turn it would have looked much more like trips.Looking for information about how to play this kind of hand more than a comment on this hand.

Mr Monkeytilt's picture
Do you have any reads on this

Do you have any reads on this guy? How many hands have you seen so far? I'm going to post thinking that this is one of the first hands and we are readless.I think him check-raising his 55 is probably the best play on the flop, but I don't like the minraise and think him raising it up to 300 would have been better. You could be cbetting a lot of hands and most of them haven't hit, and some lower pocket pairs that still beat his hand will be scared off from a check-raise. When he check-raises the flop he is finding out if his 55 is good right then and not having to call down two more streets if you keep firing or having to fold thinking you were just barrelling into him.After you flat his check-raise, he should have probably given up because that is a decent indicator that you have a strong hand that is at least a decent J. He didn't give up on the turn and instead fired a very weak bet at it for less than 1/4 the pot, he should have fired much bigger, but even so that just looks more like a strong J than trips.Am I ever getting away from AA here? I think how you described it, flat calling then check-raising the turn or flatting the turn as well then firing big on the river would more rep trips, and I would probably nit it up and fold my overpair. I've read a bunch of times that a lot of people show their true strength on the turn (low stakes) and not on the flop so a turn check-raise is much more worrying than a flop check-raise. 

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I like a flop reraise, there

I like a flop reraise, there are just too many hands out there that you can get more chips into the pot against.  Yes, 9x beats you, but you can basically get Jx to stack off, can really kill the draws on blank turns and you still don't always get the stack in against stronger hands on really bad turn cards (you'd be surprised how many opponents under bet their value hands).I wouldn't think about folding too much on this type of turn and river, you're much too strong, any types of draws that hang on missed and Jx still plays this way."One big mistake he made was the small bet on the turn.  I read that as at best a jack.  And his shove seemed weak."I'd be weary of narrowing his range down that much.  I see players do this sort of stuff with monsters all the time.  They make a small CR then make a very small turn bet with a hand like 9x.  It's a big mistake because you're losing so much value by betting so small, and if you're bluffing/semi bluffing, etc. you generally want more fold equity than such a small bet will give you (from your opponent's view), so I would say his turn bet is a mistake, but I wouldn't necessarily read it as weak.  His turn shove is pretty bad, you'd have to be incredibly loose and quite spewy for it to be a really good play.As far as his flop play goes... it really depends.  If you're normal cbets are lower, I'd honestly just fold and laugh that you probably had QT at worst here and are pounding your keyboard in frustration at the lack of action you received.  If this has been a consistent cbet type size for you (or if you've been varying your cbet sizes), I'd prefer a larger CR size from villain, 300 or so probably, to discourage bs hands from floating.  Once you call or come over the top, you probably just check fold the 55 unless you hit your 2 outs, as you generally know you're beat (or near even equity at best if there are decent draws in your opponent's range).So villain certainly played this hand pretty poorly, you did not, though you could've made a better decision on the flop in my mind.