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luemmel's picture
What´s the best line with AK in 3betpot on this board?

Hi everyone!I played the following hand against an somewhat loose opponent who called my 3bets fairly frequently and folded to my cbets. I ´m wondering what´s the best play here on the flop.I bet-called when he shoved but that seems a little weak to me. Would check-shoving be better here (or maybe bet-folding)? I am not sure how these different lines affect his ranges: On this dry board it is unlikely he has a made hand. So by betting, I should get called/raised by many worse (drawing) hands (this range has about 50% equity against my AK) against a loose opponent. But when I check-shove, am I turning my hand into a pure bluff because I will  get called by a much stronger range? I would fold out some worse hands which would call a cbet. Don´t know, maybe I am missing the point here completely . Appreciate your comments!  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players • PokerStars$22+$1 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBrompdoggy1215 BBHero1785  Effective Stacks: 41bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is BB rompdoggy raises to 60, Hero raises to 195, rompdoggy calls 135 Flop (390, 2 players) Hero bets 285, rompdoggy goes all-in 1020, Hero calls 735  

DonNew's picture
If you know he folds to alot

If you know he folds to alot of your cbets then you should cbet imo and exploit that. Paired boards are also usually good boards to cbet this 1 is a very wet 1 though. If he plays alot of fit/fold postflop in 3bets i think you can lower your cbet to half potand get a cheaper price for taking down the pot on the flop. When he raises you it looks very strong, given that he is perhaps a fit/fold type of player. I think i would c-bet half pot/fold in this case.

jackoneill's picture
I don't quite agree with your

I don't quite agree with your hand reading here.  This board just hammers his 3-bet flatting range, so I'd even consider another line here: check/fold !IMO, they only options you really have here is either check/folding or betting small (to bet/fold, of course) - even half pot is unnecessary here, I'd bet something 120-ish.  If he does fold to cbets, then betting 120 or 150 shouldn't affect his ranges very much. 


DonNew's picture
I think check/folding here is

I think check/folding here is to weak even though there is alot of 9x +8x hands in his range. Especially when we know he folds to a decent amount of c-bets after we 3-bet + he flats alot of our 3-bets giving him a weak 3-bet calling range.My preferred lines here are in prioritized order:bet-foldingcheck-foldingcheck-raisingbet-calling

elu5ive's picture
I guess I am incorrect as

I guess I am incorrect as others seem not to like bet calling, but I see a lot of ten jacks, ten queens, jack queens, a lot of them suited, and underpairs shove here. A ton of players just flat super strong hands here such as trips or better, so i see the top of his range being some kind of 8 most of the time in this situation, maybe a slow played over pair once in a while. Ace queen/ jack/ten off or suited may also show up occasionally. Vs that range we have 47% equity, we are getting 1.4 to 1 if he is getting his stack in and we are bet calling. If he just flats, we shut down and check fold turn, maybe a king or ace we continue. Again, this is basically if villains are almost never shoving trips or better.

RyPac13's picture
Play around with poker stove

Play around with poker stove and take a look at a common shoving range here, assuming he flats preflop with plenty of hands that make draws and pairs on this board.Look at the equity vs AK, then look at the odds being offered and conclusions should be a lot more accurate.I'll revisit if I see you guys do it, but it's not as useful if I just write it out myself.  Do the work on your own, in spots like this it isn't too tedious and it shouldn't be too difficult.Then we can discuss how to interpret the results and go back to the original question of cbetting or not in this spot (we will have answered already what to do once you've cbet).