Good day. I am a newbie, about 20 days on this site. I would like to ask - we are interested in HUSNG $ / hour more than our ROI. Well ... OK. In turbo husng $ / hour is higher than in regular speed husng. Actually the only thing that interests me - how to limit my variance? I mean it's not another thread where the author whines about the high variance, badbits, coolers. I'm interested in specific examples with respect to the turbo tournaments. About what is necessary to increase the volume and the edge when you are playing end game. I mean i can dominate my opponent for about 12-15 minutes, but when i shove and have about 60%-65% of winning he doubles up. Than i am short, we play, and i shove again and i have let's say about 60%-65% again, and he takes my stack. So i play, dominate, shove-loose, call shove-loose and lost my 10-15 minute game.Since I joined the community, having played nearly 400 tournaments, my profit margin has remained almost unchanged, very low, at the same time ALLIN EV is about 20 buy-in at a little distance here, even if we wont count an EV range against opponent's hand range.Of course, I know that the 400 tournaments a small distance, at the same time I was utterly indifferent to the status of my bankroll, while I'm doing good quality decisions regarding long-term prospects. The only question is what do I do wrong? Is there some general tips and advice about how to reduce my variance? But to increase the line and vague "increase the edge". I mean that I continue to play, learn the game, watch vods, but I'm naturally like every other person a bit disconcerting so strong dispersion. It is not that extremely strong, but for 20 days and four hours of play on the day I got a little less than 1 / 3 of what was supposed to get - are there any recommendations? Maybe I should play regular speed? Maybe i need to forget about such trivial things and just play another day 20 in the turbo, focusing and show my A game?? P.S. want to listen to an adequate opinion, I do not interested in whining, or other things that authors usually write on these kind of topics. Again - I am not not complaining, I'm doing good quality decisions, that's all. I was just wondering maybe this is the most common downswing? I just thought that this downswing when playing one hundredth tournament. Playing 200, I thought that here now, and the green line will go to the top. 300 tournament playing me these things began to lead to confusion, and now over 400 tournaments played, absolutely no changes ... By "no changes" i mean that my bankroll is growing slowly, but as i said if i'll get what i should, then the speed will be 3x faster O_OP.P.S. also - i know what is end game lol. Still watching a lot of videos, using nash, modify it if my villain is calling tight/loose, not only shoving or folding, using limps, minraises and so on.
for now i think i should play reg speeds about 3 weeks for 3-4 hours per day on average. i'will even more increase my edge postflop, but what is more better - i will learn more about lategame play out of vods. then i will play 11.5 turbos slowly, focusing on every game, but what's more important - focusing on every LATE game
" I know that the 400 tournaments a small distance, at the same time I was utterly indifferent to the status of my bankroll, while I'm doing good quality decisions regarding long-term prospects. The only question is what do I do wrong?"when you write like this you do seem bothered by the variance to some extent even if its not your intention. However, look at the EV graph, why do you think you are doing something wrong at all??
Hey g-o-G-a I can't see anything wrong based on your graph.Variance must be accepted. Only two ways to eliminate variance that I know about. 1) Don't play 2) Only bet when you have the absolute, unbeatable nuts! Neither of these two options is a good one for the poker player, so we have to just accept variance for what it is.I am sure all winning players who understand the game will tell you exactly what you already know but don't want to hear. Keep your focus on improving as a player, playing your "A" game and making positive "EV" plays. I know that advice is not what I want to hear when the percentages seem to be going against me. All I really want to hear is how much do I need to pay to get the boom switched turned on.Remember, even if you were dealt AA every hand and went all in and got called by 72o every time. You still would lose almost 12% of the time. Sometimes it seems like the 12% losing comes all at once, and the 88% winning is on vacation, but thats life.All we can do is get our money in with the best equity and know that this will make us money over time. Stay encouraged and realize we are all dealing with this crap. Learn to handle it now, or risk jumping off a building when the down swings come when you are playing high stakes!Pretty sure you know this stuff. I am really typing this to myself.PaulIB_FishingReally needs to read my own advice
I dont even see a downswing on that graph. Only a 300 game break even strech and running below EV which I would gladly take right now. Im currently on a 2.1K downswing(which is 42BI) and I should have ben up 1.3K(another 26 BI). Go and look at some people who have 5K+ games under their belt and a good wintrate and see what kind of downswings they have gone on. It will all even out eventually and as long as your playing good and that red line is going up be happy :).
well. ok guys. thank you all but what i chose is to play reg speeds for a week or for 2 weeks. and after i watch and understand vods about endgame i will focus on turbos. i mean when i play postflop i feel so comfortable, but when i play against my opponent for 10 or more minutes and then just shoving 10 bb or so with something like A2o against KJs i feel that all i did is just going away, all my edge is just so small.and also - i didn't mean i have downswing, i just didn't understand my graph, as for me i guess i need to power up my endgame and only then i should play turbos.thanx all a lot . enjoyed all of your posts, figured out what should i do. thx ;) //// well lol. played a few reg speed games on stars and just understood that i don't like them. i mean yep my edge is increased, but you know i played something about 30-40 minutes with a calling station, than something about 30 minutes with LAG, and a few more games. even if i won most of them i just feel so uncomfortable , the structure is so slow jeez ;) so i guess i will just watch endgame and ST videos without playing reg speeds ;)
It sounds like you may have some condidence issues. I took my shot playing turbos right from the get go and it didnt go well at all. I had the same frame of thinking. I play good for 20 min and he bad beats me twice in a row and wont rematch "what a fish!" which led to tilt issues. I dropped back to the reg speeds and watched my roi go up which made my graph go up which made my confidence go up. It took me less than a week to go from the 5s to the 10s and now hopefully I'll be taking shots at the 20s tomarrow. one think I have learned from here is that the higher your roi the lower your varience will be., Good luck
yep.. lol i guess that is just a huge downswing i have. -35 BI belov EV, and it doesnt count situations like QQ call shove agaisnt LAG's KK and so on, i am so frustrated lol ;)
I lost $400 in $10 games and had a 51% roi.