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Limped AK, hit tptk, donkbet on turn 6.5$ turbo

Villain was very loose aggressive. 3 times I limped with a merged range otb, and everytime he raised 4x or higher, and I folded. That is the reason I limped with AK, I was pretty sure he would make it at least 200. But somehow he dodged the bullet and checked behind. I hit tptk on a very dry flop and of course made a value bet. His donk bet on the turn surprised me. I could not put him on a range. Would he donk bet the straight? Two pair? Set? TPWK?What is the most +ev line to take on the turn. Flat? All in - given the stack size he is probably commited? Is think a fold at this point is completely out of question.What if we just flat and he jams river?One hand, one million questions.Please don't criticize my pre-flop decision too much, that's the only part of the hand I know how to play better ;)      $25/$50 No Limit Holdem • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBVillain$760.00  BTNHero$2240.00  Effective Stacks: 15bb Pre-Flop ($75.00, 2 players) Hero is BTN Hero calls $25.00, Villain checks Flop ($100.00, 2 players) Villain checks, Hero bets $50.00, Villain calls $50.00 Turn ($200.00, 2 players) Villain bets $150.00, Hero ????    

thepuminator's picture
Has he ever flatted flop and

Has he ever flatted flop and donked turn b4? I know you said he is loose aggro but is that post flop too? Is he aggro with draws? Have you been barreling light at all and if so has he picked up on it?Readless im just jamming this and being happy about it. I guess you could call/call if he has been aggro/bluffy, but I would normally just jam

crstn's picture
First time he flatted and

First time he flatted and donk bet turn, my image must be of a solid pre-flop player, but barrelling a lot. But to be honest i would say the random 6.25 player will not pick up on that - maybe he is the exception. I was so surprised because this turn donk bet was not his style. He raises or check raises, but never seen him donk on the flop either.

thepuminator's picture
If he is doing lots of

If he is doing lots of c/raising then I expect this to be a semi bluff almost all the time since your hand looks a lot weaker than it is b/c of ur limp pre and you should prolly just jam.

ACES15FULL's picture
Kind of looks like a weak

Kind of looks like a weak draw that turned into a pair with a redraw on the turn. Where you limped pre and have been raising in this match he surely doesn't put you on a strong king. I'm betting closer to 70 on the flop and then putting in basically a pot sized shove over his lead. Your going to see a ton of 5's and 7's call down here I think.

RyPac13's picture
If he's also loose and

If he's also loose and aggressive preflop, I wouldn't have limped 4 times (especially if he's raised each and every one of them) and I would be primarily raising the button for value (the extent depends on his reactions).Moving to this hand, bet the flop larger for value.  He's loose, aggressive and the pot is now smaller because you limped expecting a raise (and did not get one... I can't tell you how many times I used to experience the same thing... limp a strong hand vs a lag, they finally decide to check... it's just one reason why I really dislike limping strong hands to trap).  A 75 chip bet is a better size.Now the pot would be 250 chips, so you can easily bet anywhere from 125-175 on the turn to really setup a great pot to stack ratio, committing weaker hands into calling another bet on the river (or even shoving the turn).  If you opt for a 125 chip bet, you'd still have a 500 chip pot and your opponent would have 510 chips left on the river (assuming he called).  That's about the lower end of bet sizing I'd recommend (for any type of hand here).Once he leads the turn, in this actual situation or in the "bet larger on the flop" situation I described above, I think a raise is in order unless he's been extremely bluffy thus far postflop, in which case calling and using your positional advantage to allow him to bluff the river is best (if not, value betting yourself usually).As for raise size (if you don't have any reason to believe a call is better, in this specific case it does not look like you do), I'm torn between a smaller size and a shove.  I kind of like a smaller raise size, to perhaps induce some weaker hands into calling or reshoving (draws in particular that may not call a shove but would reraise over a minraise or otherwise small raise... remember, aggros aren't usually the type to make hero folds, even vs what some might say is "obvious strength" in a minraise).If you shoved or raised here I think you did fine.  The flop bet can be larger, it's not as important as if you're deeper stacked though, as a half pot bet is more substantial in this situation than in the 10-20 blinds with even stacks.

crstn's picture
I really appreciate all your

I really appreciate all your comments!And thank you Ryan for taking time to give such detailed answers!  

RyPac13's picture
You are welcome!

You are welcome!