when he overbets the flop, i feel kinda disgusted i wanna jam but am so frightened for TOP PAIR better kickers, overpairs, and 2pair/sets, his overbet looks so strong, but i cant help myself but call the flop (i have no clue if this is a good idea or a bad idea) but villain is loosing player if thats worth anything. flop is obv SUPERWET and my hand is supervulnerable on the turn, well on the turn when he ships, its like his hand is either nutted or air /superweak and i dont see him valuebettin much like this tbh... so yeah dno what to do here... No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$110 + $5 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBalcamuniz1195 BBHero1805 Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BB alcamuniz raises to 100, Hero calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) Hero checks, alcamuniz bets 250, Hero calls 250 Turn (700, 2 players) Hero checks, alcamuniz goes all-in 845, Hero ?????
Again, you should have some reads at this point beyond what you've said. If I could make a general recommendation, it seems you're looking at hands without thinking about the context of the player enough. Readless it's a jam over the flop bet but obviously we're not loving it. If we c/c the overbet we let our opponent own us a ton on a lot of turn/river cards and give him the option of checking back turn etc, and just use position against us. I see people bet/fold this size all the time, bet/call 5x/A4/weird stuff like that all the time. If you have reads that he's not doing anything crazy and really really nitty I actually would prefer folding to the flop bet than flat calling, but it's a very rare opponent where we should just check/fold on this flop, even to an overbet.
yeah, i frankly, had no real reads or anything, was at the end of a 13hour straight session w/o breaks, and mostly 2 tabling, so i was VERY AUTOPILOT and just sucking in noticing things, only thing i remembered, about this villain, is that he was just pretty bad, and spewing, altho thats not really a read, i ended up flatting flop and turn, and he showed up with 76o i mean, idk, this is my thought process throughout the hand tho on the flop he overbets, like he has a strong 9x and wants to protect vs the draws out there, board is quite wet.on the turn he overbets again, but now he is trying to rep the flush and valuetown me, while one street earlier he was trying to rep a strong hand that didnt wanna see a flush hence = does not compute>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bluff = i call but thats probably a horrible way of thinking hah from your post, i am learning and remembering, readless (asi was because im a retard playing c-game) if villain is slightly crazy (he is) we can ship over flop, and i dont hate it, i think it saves me from alot of hard spots on turn and rivers, altho i dont see him folding much better, if any, i see him calling worse (and better) i guess its pretty close tho, depending onhow bad this guy is, but he definately was NOT the nitty, never out of line, kind of guy.
OK key point here to focus on. We're not shoving flop to fold better. We're shoving flop for value because we think we have the best hand/he'll call with worse/it plays much better against his FDs than flatting. Our flop shove would not be a bluff.
Is this flop really superwet? Like, there's a FD and some gutters; 24/46 might not even raise pre. This is way different than 976ss imo. Not sure how that affects the hand, my guess is that it makes it less likely that your read about him protecting is correct, which would make raising the flop better.
@mersenneary ; oh yeah i realised that, that our flop shove would not be a bluff, i was just trying to go over thepossible outcomes of a flop shove, saying stuff like, he wont fold much better, but he will call worse. (like just summing up, how villain would react out loud, i know we are not shoving to fold better)