first hand in superturbo vs unknown, but loosing player. No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$50 + $1 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBbigcity84480 BBHero520 Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB bigcity84 raises to 40, Hero calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, bigcity84 bets 60, Hero raises to 150, bigcity84 goes all-in 440, Hero calls 290 Turn (960, 2 players, 1 all-in) River (960, 2 players, 1 all-in) Final Pot: 960 bigcity84 shows two pair, Queens and Sevens Hero shows two pair, Sevens and Fours bigcity84 wins 960 ( won +480 ) Hero lost -480
Villain is big fish, i raise 3x pre, because i think he will ship over lighter, however, once he doesnt, on this flop, if eel like im turning my hand into a bluff, and i dislike this ;( because i have an actual good hand, and im only getting called by stuff that beats me... so i was hoping for some more suggestions on how i can get value from worse, without getting "sucked out on" for example, if i check behind and he ships turn, when Q comes off and he has Qx ima be sad :( !!so basically i was wondering, if there are any other good lines i can take here, or what the optimal line would be, next to doin a go - and - goNo Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$100 + $2 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBDpIsNice240 SBHero760 Effective Stacks: 12bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, DpIsNice calls 40 Flop (120, 2 players) DpIsNice checks, Hero goes all-in 700, DpIsNice folds Final Pot: 820 Hero wins 820 ( won +60 ) DpIsNice lost -60
Bet 40-60 and hope he raises with air. He shouldn't have any Ax. if he calls then double barrel for value from Kx.
Will get back to the early hands - but I definitely agree that all-in is a mistake on the flop. You shouldn't check, either: 40-60 (probably 40) is best. Jamming is just too scared of getting sucked out on, it completely removes any chance for him to bluff and I think he continues less with Kx as well.
earlier hand, i just think i should flat the flop, because of the overcard out there (to my 2 cards) which gives me bad equity when he shoves but makes me pot committed when i raise that big. Mers, i kinda have a proposition for you, how would you like it, if i just post the shit out of this thread with hands, since i play ALOT as of late. like 60hours/week is gettin pretty std, so how about, i just post ALOT of hands, probably alot more then the others will, however, since thsi seems unfair, u do not have to get back at every hand!!! if i REALLY NEED input on a certain hand, i will mention it specifically, the other hands, i will just post, to give u a better idea of my overall game, and hopefully u will see a pattern of what im doin wrong, and point that out to me, that in itself would be 10000x more valuable to me then get some hands reviewed. And would make me feel less bad about posting so much hehe :P let me know if u think thats a good idea or not ;) much love to all ps ; thx for input xereles really appreciate it :)
Just as long as you understand I won't be commenting on all or even most of your hands, that's fine. Here's some comments on your hands in this thread just to not bump it:Hand 1 is a weird one from ITRIED's perspective. He only needs 20% equity to call off the jam, and there aren't actually a lot of flush draws in his range that don't have some additional equity like a straight draw or a pair or dominating a lot of other flush draws. So I put him on a float (retroactively), except that the turn bet seems a little big if he just thinks you have a lot of air in your range. I asked him about it and he said he agreed with me but also thought you had some weak pairs in your range, which makes the turn sizing make more sense. In your position, though, I would jam pre for sure. The turn decision depends a lot on whether you think he's floating you a lot, a check can be fine, default is to bet and take advantage of the fact that the diamond draw hasn't come yet by continuing to rep it.There's not much to say about the second hand, it's a fold against people who don't double barrel much, a call against people who do, and versus a random it honestly depends what kind of random they are. Your play is fine and you should have some reads at this point in the game to back it up.Hand 3: The problem on the river is that you don't rep a lot of value hands with this size. Tx is c/r the flop a good bit, Kx and 4x usually bet bigger, and 6x doesn't usually bet the river at all. Because of this, it's a pretty easy call with ace high or any pair. Leading, as others have mentioned, is definitely an option.Hand 4: He can have busted flush draws on the river, but I play the hand the same way as you did if I do decide to check/raise the flop.
http://www.husng.com/content/qq-k-high-flop-3bet-pot-115For that thread, I think c-betting/checking are close in equity, depend a lot on tendencies. Definitely c-bet with 99.
why definately cbet with 99? but with QQ its close? is it because of more possible overs/bad cards to come? also, today i played a 220$ turbo vs a player with good stats, he had 5% roi at avg stake 350 so i expect him to be somewhat decentthe first 10 hands go by, and im surprised how often he folds pre, and folds vs cbets hes playing V TIGHT. thats why here on the flop i decide to check it behind, knowing that hes a reg/good player, i expect him to bet at least on the turn. No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$220 + $10 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero1800 BBshunyok1200 Effective Stacks: 40bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, shunyok calls 30 Flop (120, 2 players) shunyok checks, Hero checks Turn (120, 2 players) shunyok bets 80, Hero calls 80 River (280, 2 players) shunyok bets 210, Hero calls 210 Final Pot: 700 Hero shows three of a kind, Nines shunyok shows Hero wins 700 ( won +350 ) shunyok lost -350
nh! worked out well, but I would say a cbet is still best on that flop, because if he's playing very tight pre that flop should hit his flatting range a lot, even if it's a paired flop, and he can play back at you with a ton of Qx (QK, QJ, QT, Q8) and straight draws (TJ, KJ, even J8 etc). If you've been cbetting a lot he might even pick that spot to make a check-raise with air, which we expect he should be capable of doing since he's a good player even though he's being nitty so far.Plus you really want to build the pot with such a strong hand, and not give free cards to all those straight draws.Just my opinion, interesting hand imo. I'd like a check back more with shallower stacks.
On the K9 hand you say he's a good player & that's why you checked flop. If he's a good player heprobably expects you to have Ax & Kx a lot of the time when you check. These hands will also call a lot of turn bets. I guess that's only if he knows you're a good player. Otherwise he probably leads out turn the vast majority of the time. If he expects you to have some weak showdown value he might bluff the turn w/ the intention of double barreling, but I guess I'm not really sure how often to expect that line.
i see ur point, but i deffo dont want him to fold here, and i feel like he was playing straightforward so far (not making any moves at ALL) and just feelin me out kinda, and being v tight+straightforwards so i expected on this dry board that hed fold pretty often vs a cbet hence i check, but i think theres also merit in checking behind, its prettty close imo im just wondering, on river, are we EVER folding? after playing as played?
"why definately cbet with 99? but with QQ its close? is it because of more possible overs/bad cards to come?" - Yep, checking is worse if you're giving your opponent's pair draws a free card, but with QQ undercards can't catch up and beat you on the turn.
first hand, i deffo want to 3bet this vs villain who almost never folds vs 3bets, and like ive learned from mers, this hand like AK id rather 3bet a big on the biggish side. so my decision making is simplified post, but i dont 3bet big enough, guess i didnt consider stacks enough ingame, and he just flats which is straight up frustrating. on the flop, im not sure, its like, im just unsure, if i can check fold, or if im getting it in eitherway now, because stacks and pot is so awkward. eitherway i end up deciding to just bet/call on flop but he flats again, and ont urn im just like SPEW lol.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$110 + $5 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBgeorge_cha1125 BBHero1875 Effective Stacks: 38bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is BB george_cha raises to 90, Hero raises to 285, george_cha calls 195 Flop (570, 2 players) Hero bets 320, george_cha calls 320 Turn (1210, 2 players) Hero goes all-in 1270, george_cha folds Final Pot: 2480 Hero wins 2480 ( won +605 ) george_cha lost -605 Here: pre is idk wtf im doing tbh. on the flop, i just check behind trying to get to a free river... he bets the turn, i think arguably, this could be a fold, but i end up calling cuzz im a fish ldo, so i flat the turn bet, and on the river, (at this point he can have pretty much everythin, Qx 8x 3x, but on the river, i realise i ccan succesfully rep 3x since i checked behind flop, he prolly realises i have some kind of showdown equity, but not good Qx's and when he bets 40 itno 160 there, i just cant help myself... dno if its good or bad i thought it was a good play. No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$100 + $2 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBdulura370 SBHero630 Effective Stacks: 19bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, dulura calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) dulura checks, Hero checks Turn (80, 2 players) dulura bets 40, Hero calls 40 River (160, 2 players) dulura bets 40, Hero goes all-in 550, dulura folds Final Pot: 750 Hero wins 750 ( won +120 ) dulura lost -120 here same villain, except here, effective stacks are 25 bbs, and im not sure on preflop, like i think i can ship over here... vs some villains. (or most rather) but! this guy had opened hsis btn about 27% over 100 hands or so. so, he was a pretty tight btn opener, and i didnt felt comfy shippin over it. with 55 the first hand of a new game. so yeah, is this better then? to just flat and give up on alot of flops? he also wasnt cbetting often, hence i fold the flop. No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$100 + $2 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero530 SBdulura470 Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB dulura raises to 40, Hero calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, dulura bets 40, Hero folds Final Pot: 120 dulura wins 120 ( won +40 ) Hero lost -40
Today, i spent some time playing ST's while nicoasp was on my mikogo (hes also a student here) and we stumbled upon this hand, that we both thought was interesting, we see merit in floating flop, because we have quite some good equity vs villains cbetting range, but at same time, with the wet low card board, it will put us in hard spots on later streets, then as played, on turn, we make a flushdraw, and pffff, i dont really wanna check/fold, but i dont wanna check call t120+ bet eitehr, and i cant really check/jam cuzz its like 3d hand and im completely readless, so i decide to lead out small, and try to get a cheap river card, because afaik villain will fold a lot of his cbetted air, and he will just flat behind with one pair hands like 5x 3x maybe even fold... idk pretty butchered hand, but deffo some stuff to think about here ;)No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero500 BTNSteFior73500 Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB SteFior73 raises to 44, Hero calls 24 Flop (88, 2 players) Hero checks, SteFior73 bets 50, Hero calls 50 Turn (188, 2 players) Hero bets 75, SteFior73 goes all-in 406, Hero folds Final Pot: 669 SteFior73 wins 669 ( won +169 ) Hero lost -169
I usually 3bet KQ pre, but assuming I flat I always end up hating spots like this. It feels so weak to just check/fold, but at the same time I'm not sure how good shape we really are in vs his cbetting range, not to mention the trouble we could get ourselves in on future streets. On flops like this I think people usually cbet more often when they either have some pair or at least some equity, as opposed to flops like A62 where people tend to cbet their entire range almost. So I think a c/f on the flop can't be that bad?I like the donkbet on the turn, even though I'd probably make it slightly bigger, maybe 90-120, I just think it looks more credible but idk.I'm interested to see what mers has to say about this hand.
AQ hand is played well. He can have some diamonds/A4 type stuff and shouldn't have THAT much 6x/3x/2x in his flatting range of that size 3bets, so jamming is going to do better than checking and letting a lot of his stuff see a free card. You're bet/calling the flop, of course.
For the 66 hand, why are you confused about pre? It's definitely a standard minraise/call hand. You want to induce shoves from Ace-rag and king-rag and you'll do that best from a minraise. Flop decision is based on his c/r frequency, if he doesn't c/r often, I would c-bet. My standard is to c-bet. Standard is definitely to call the turn lead without reads that he doesn't do this often with his straight draws. On the river, I expect a lot of 8x/9x/some Qx, and definitely think you can fold a ton of out with a jam and are rarely ahead after that river and that sizing. The big question is whether he has a fold button but I don't mind the jam at all.
With the 55, I'd still just jam pre. Even against the top 15% of hands, 55 still has around 45% equity, so with fold equity it's still going to be a +EV jam. Another note is that be careful with your HUD numbers, 27% over 100 hands can be pretty misleading if your opp minraises different ranges at different stack depths. As played, it depends exactly on what you've seen him c-bet and not c-bet, standard is to call though.
With the KQ, definitely 3bet pre readless (and I happen to know villain, so it's definitely a 3bet pre). Raise to 125 and call it off if he jams. Going to have much better expectation that way.Flop is a really close decision. If he bets even t55 I would fold, t60 is definitely a fold. I'm OK with flatting t50 but going to be pretty borderline.I really dislike the lead on the turn. It's a disaster when he jams over, which he's going to do a decent amount of the time. We have about 26.5% equity versus a pair, and if we lead with these stack sizes, we should expect a pretty large number of jams over the bet, and because of that I think we should be bet/calling if we do lead the turn. Leading like t135 makes a bet/call correct and I think gives us pretty decent fold equity against hands like 85o, A3, etc. I'm fine with either bet/calling that size or check/evaluating but I think smaller bet/fold gets us owned way too much.But 3bet pre :)
Some hands played against Mers himself ;**disclaimer** hope u took no offence, obv thinking i have an edge would be redic, lol, i pretty much worship you, and i just wanted to play one game vs you sometime, being the legend u are and all that, was thrilled to see u sitting "this low" and figured it was a great chance to play someone really good ** i think i tried to hard to outtlevel you (like i often do vs good players, and levelled myself into alot of -EV spots) 1st handpre; i decide to make a smaller then normal 3bet, because you always advocate makign AQ/AK bigger then normal, i reasoned, by making it slightly smaller then normal, it will be less face up, and i dont think i can play an exploitive style (like 3betting AQ/AK bigger to get it in easier and have easier decision making postflop, vs a good player like yourself.)flop, i decide to check, thinking im check/calling one street. i think a bet might be better tho, but when u flat, and then the turn comes a blank, wtf do i do, im really uncertain in these kind of spots, so i check and u check behind, all seems fine, i dont expect u to have Kx all that much.Turn, i check again, hoping to induce a stab from ur non showdown value hands, altho, im not sure, what kind of hands that might be and how much of those u have in ur range, im guessing its a very %% percentage.when you dont bet, i expect u to have something like 99, TT maybe, Qx AT AJ A9s, some showdown value at least,River: i think since i reasoned so far that u have showdown value, u are not gonna suddenly bet it on the river, i should lead and try and get value. i think im reppin pretty much nothing really. so i go for 210 into 330 seems a good sizing to me. Hand 2pre: stdflop : i check, going for a checkraise obv, and ur 60 cbet seems like the std amount, im unsure how often or with what kind of hand u would cbet this dry a board, but i am thinking IF he has a draw, i want to charge him as much as possible so i go for a pretty big raise to 195 im really wondering here, what about this raise, like is it too big? i think it doesnt really look all that bluffy, with this sizing and pretty much has a "i want to get it in right now"-feeling to it. **DISCLAIMER 2: on the hand after this, i 4betjammed 99 into mers his QQ and i sucked out, like the fish i am.** No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$220 + $10 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1500 SBmersenneary1500 Effective Stacks: 50bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is BB mersenneary raises to 60, Hero raises to 165, mersenneary calls 105 Flop (330, 2 players) Hero checks, mersenneary checks Turn (330, 2 players) Hero checks, mersenneary checks River (330, 2 players) Hero bets 210, mersenneary calls 210 Final Pot: 750 Hero shows a pair of Queens mersenneary shows Hero wins 750 ( won +375 ) mersenneary lost -375 No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$220 + $10 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1935 SBmersenneary1065 Effective Stacks: 36bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is BB mersenneary raises to 60, Hero calls 30 Flop (120, 2 players) Hero checks, mersenneary bets 60, Hero raises to 195, mersenneary folds Final Pot: 375 Hero wins 375 ( won +120 ) mersenneary lost -120
Of course I don't take offense, don't be silly. I believe there are a lot of reasons to want to play a game of poker, and EV in that game doesn't always have to be one of them.I think your reasoning about the 3betting size doesn't really make sense. When we make it t185-t195, we're not making our hand face up at all if we include bluff hands as well. But I certainly don't mean to say that's the only sizing scheme we can use, there are plenty of others than what I talked about in the other thread that are both balanced and make use of the characteristics of the hands in the range.I'm fine with how you played the AQ hand. 99 and TT are most definitely not in my range, though, those are very easy jams pre. I think you can get value from worse Qx and 8x by betting on the river, although Qx is most definitely betting when checked to three times.The check raise size is definitely too big with the 55 against a thinking player.gg!
oh mers, the final hand, where u 3bet till like 150 after i opened btn to 60, and i shipped 99 at stacks +- 32bbs, was that fine or std? i know pretty much nothing about getting it in preflop ranges, becuase of playing so many deepstacks :P
Super super standard, you should jam any pair there.
Frist hand: Not sure why i dont cbet flop i guess its mainly because im scared of getting raised of my hand while having gutshot and backdoor equity. (its a dry board) hence i think u could argument for cbetting and against it.on the turn i make an open ender, now it gets easier for me, but when u bet, i decide to raise and pretty umch barrel any river card, i feel like checking back the flop but raising the turn will look pretty strong.u ship the river and i have no clue what is going on and fold obv. 2nd hand;ah similair spot as hand 1, except i dont decide to raise it here, i think it might look weak after the previous hand found place and decide to just flat, and i miss so i fold the riv. 3d hand;pretty std check behind pre i think, i dont really know what ur limping range is, but i dont expect it to be much Kx, and i think the flat flop lead turn line when the board pairs (worst card to bluff on) makes my line just look like 7x alot. 4th hand, u check the flop behind, im not sure what this means. so id ecide to just see how it goes, the 8 turn, it seems unlikely that you would vbet an 8 on the turn itself, if u had 8x u would be more inclined to check the turn bet a blank river perhaps (this is just my thoughtprocess no clue how wrong or right this is) so i flat my 7x, and on the river, i kinda realise, if he doesnt vbet the 8 then what is he trying to get me off or bluffing on the 8 turn, and what hands is he checking flop but vbetting turn with? only logical answer seems to be Kx to me, so i decide to check/shove the river but u check behind, is there any other way to play my hand after realising my turn call is a mistake so that i still win the pot a large % of the amount iwthout doing anything too radical?? No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBmersenneary1425 BTNHero1575 Effective Stacks: 48bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is BTN Hero raises to 60, mersenneary calls 30 Flop (120, 2 players) mersenneary checks, Hero checks Turn (120, 2 players) mersenneary bets 80, Hero raises to 215, mersenneary calls 135 River (550, 2 players) mersenneary checks, Hero bets 325, mersenneary goes all-in 1150, Hero folds Final Pot: 2025 mersenneary wins 2025 ( won +600 ) Hero lost -600 No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBmersenneary2010 BTNHero990 Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 20/40 Pre-Flop (60, 2 players) Hero is BTN Hero raises to 80, mersenneary calls 40 Flop (160, 2 players) mersenneary checks, Hero checks Turn (160, 2 players) mersenneary bets 100, Hero calls 100 River (360, 2 players) mersenneary checks, Hero checks Final Pot: 360 mersenneary shows Hero shows mersenneary wins 360 ( won +180 ) Hero lost -180 No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNmersenneary1960 BBHero1040 Effective Stacks: 17bb Blinds 30/60 Pre-Flop (90, 2 players) Hero is BB mersenneary calls 30, Hero checks Flop (120, 2 players) Hero checks, mersenneary bets 60, Hero calls 60 Turn (240, 2 players) Hero bets 135, mersenneary folds Final Pot: 375 Hero wins 375 ( won +120 ) mersenneary lost -120 No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNmersenneary1380 BBHero1620 Effective Stacks: 14bb Blinds 50/100 Pre-Flop (150, 2 players) Hero is BB mersenneary calls 50, Hero checks Flop (200, 2 players) Hero checks, mersenneary checks Turn (200, 2 players) Hero checks, mersenneary bets 100, Hero calls 100 River (400, 2 players) Hero checks, mersenneary checks Final Pot: 400 mersenneary shows Hero shows mersenneary wins 400 ( won +200 ) Hero lost -200
gg! Let's talk about it.Of the hands you posted...I really recommend c-betting with the 65, and don't think your reasoning for not c-betting is very good at all. We have six high and have flopped a great board to get a ton of folds (yes, even against me). If you think I'm going crazy check/raising these type of boards (which you have no reason to believe), just 3bet the flop - problem solved. With some reads that I'm very passive on turns, it can be OK to do this, but I really think not c-betting is just a spazz play from your in the moment irrational fear of getting check/raised. imo, try to cut these kind of plays out of your arsenal without more equity-based reasons from observed frequencies.Turn is a must-raise as played so good job there, and you have to barrel river if you make it this small of a size because I can continue with a lot of my own draws and pairs to this sizing. I had A9 here, so I do want to make sure you understand why from my position, I have to call the turn raise and crai river instead of taking any other line, so feel free to ask questions if you're confused as to why I did that. I am surprised you had air though only because you tanked so long on the river :p
With the 67: c-bet, it's not wet enough of a board that it's not going to be a profitable c-bet situation (it's a little more justifiable if there were a flush draw on the flop). Adding to your reasons to c-bet here is that a good player is going to bet the turn a ton of the time after you check behind on this flop, knowing that your range is going to be quite weak, so you don't have the chance to take it away on the turn with a delayed c-bet very often.Giving up looks good on the river. Most of your Qx that's calling turn will cbet and I know that.
T9, nice hand, very good way to contest a limped pot like this.
With the J7, I actually gave you some credit with my Kx by checking behind, believing that you were check/raising often enough to make my life uncomfortable (but not often enough for me to bet/call). I think your thought process is well reasoned except that I'd definitely bet 8x on the turn if I had it, the thing is a ton of 8x should also be betting flop (other than maybe like Q8).
love mers advice so much AINEC :) the only question i have is in the first hand after raising turn and betting river what do you fold that doesnt fold the turn?also :P i tanked so long, because i was actually thinking out loud ( i mean i know i was snap folding kinda) but i was thinking out loud what the worst hand would be, that id call with, if i had taken the same line and u ended up jamming the river lol ur hand is played to perfection obviously, and while A9 makes a shitton of sense, i just had this feeling like alot of hands might have u beat and u were bluffing, and then i snapped out of it, and was like lol high stakes reg image stuck in my mind im such a fish snap out of it :P heres a cool hand i played today vs faarcyde whose a cardrunners or w.e site it is instructor last time i checked No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNHero1620 BBfaarcyde1380 Effective Stacks: 46bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is BTN Hero raises to 60, faarcyde calls 30 Flop (120, 2 players) faarcyde checks, Hero bets 60, faarcyde calls 60 Turn (240, 2 players) faarcyde bets 120, Hero calls 120 River (480, 2 players) faarcyde bets 240, Hero raises to 521, faarcyde ...... No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$88 + $5 Heads Up Shootout Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero1150 BBDocStar771850 Effective Stacks: 29bb Blinds 20/40 Pre-Flop (60, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 80, DocStar77 calls 40 Flop (160, 2 players) DocStar77 checks, Hero bets 80, DocStar77 calls 80 Turn (320, 2 players) DocStar77 checks, Hero checks River (320, 2 players) DocStar77 bets 320, Hero calls 320 hand 2 is vs a slightly weaker player, but was readless because of multitabling and idk why, but it just felt like a call lol
also mers, idk if ud remember but, where there any things in particular u noticed about my game, that were just bad or not good?
I fold TONS of stuff on the river there - all my pairs/draws that have to continue given the odds you're giving me, but can't call river against your perceived river betting range, especially given the no flop c-bet is a little weird.
I wouldn't do the 68 bluff readless but with some tendencies it can be fine.
Folding readless in hand 2 as well, yes the betsizing is a little odd, but there are some kings up hands that make sense and not a ton of missed draws that don't have a pair. He will show up with some occasionally of course though.
As for your game, you were my 5th table at the time, so not too much more to point out than what we've discussed :)
ye i think the hand 2 is a fold as well in retrospect, but was just biased because i snapped w/O thinking and was good there =//vs faarcyde i mean... we have a lil bit of history and he raises that flop with 4x and 9x afaik, because in the past ive gonne pretty far out of control on paired flops, so when he just flats, i expect him to have highcard or air really, then on the turn when he leads, i expect him to have air mainly and VERY rare 4x trying to pot controland on the river, he just cantt see me having anything else but 9x, because i think in his mind, im not crazy enough to bluff like this... that was my tought process fwiw and haha fml, i still got raped, i think i ran like 300$ above EV in our game and still lost :P
villain is unknown to me personallybut its more of a technical question maybe even a theory question, i float the flop with A high, because its fairly dry and once on the river, i wonder if we can valuebet thinly, not just for value but also for a bluff, do we get him to fold much things that beat us in general? like how do we determine this? is this merging our range if we bet the river? because we MIGHT be valuebetting vs other A high, OR might be bluffing vs weak 9x ? No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$220 + $10 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1490 SBterrapins111510 Effective Stacks: 37bb Blinds 20/40 Pre-Flop (60, 2 players) Hero is BB terrapins11 raises to 80, Hero calls 40 Flop (160, 2 players) Hero checks, terrapins11 bets 85, Hero calls 85 Turn (330, 2 players) Hero checks, terrapins11 checks River (330, 2 players) Hero???
no real reads, am watching ALL 6!!! star wars today while grinding i jsut realise on the flop i hate check/raising i hate check/calling and i hate leading and playing further streets, but i figure i just lead and go c c c because i cba coming up with something better and just dont like ANY option at all once we get to flop =/ thoughts? No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$50 + $1 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBgeetee38370 BBHero630 Effective Stacks: 9bb Blinds 20/40 Pre-Flop (60, 2 players) Hero is BB geetee38 calls 20, Hero checks Flop (80, 2 players) Hero bets 40, geetee38 folds Final Pot: 120 Hero wins 120 ( won +40 ) geetee38 lost -40
not many reads still pretty early on, only thing i know is villain has 3% roi over 700 games, eitherway, im thinking about the turn decision mainly, which is bothering me, do i bet/call it off (hate this, but prolly should get more "used to it" so i dont become too focused on just getting it in when ahead in STs. ) or do we check and give up and if we get there then just vtown like i played it here and WHY?No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$100 + $2 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBj4m3z410 SBHero590 Effective Stacks: 21bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, j4m3z calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) j4m3z checks, Hero bets 40, j4m3z calls 40 Turn (160, 2 players) j4m3z checks, Hero checks River (160, 2 players) j4m3z bets 80, Hero raises to 197, j4m3z goes all-in 330, Hero calls 133 Final Pot: 820 j4m3z shows Hero shows a straight, Jack high Hero wins 820 ( won +410 ) j4m3z lost -410
9x is very rarely folding river in that first hand, remember that kickers don't play. I think it's very close between a bet and a check.
J3 is a completely reads dependent question, absent of those lead and c/c are going to be close but I lean towards c/c given that the majority of people will bet their air on this flop.
I'd check turn with the 97, too much of his flop range is continuing to a barrel, on the river I think you should just jam over the lead but think it's close between that and a smaller sizing.
this is a general st kinda question; first hand of a match, (or readless eitherway)Hero (500chips)villain (500chips)Hero raises to t40Villain raises to t100Hero raises to t500Villain calls t500 and shows J8o/ Q8o/ KTo etc obv these are not the greatest hands for villain to be 3betting with, but my question lies in the fact that, once villain has 3bet is he forced to call a jam with those type of hands or not?i was having a discussion with someone who is fairly good at semi high stakes sts concerning this today, and to me it just seems like, once villain has 3betted calling the 4bet cant be that horrible. input required :)
KJ/KQ you have to call it off, KT probably right on the borderline, J8o/Q8o terrible. Even if you assume people are flatting and not jamming their KQ kind of stuff and jamming all their low pairs, J8o has 33.8% equity against 22+,A7s+,A8o+. Not close to good enough.
k ty ;) tmw ima learn how pot odds workLOL
Ugh very weird hand vs spankykirky idk why i dont jam flop, i was just scared shitless because i quickly hit 2 of my eurodonk friends on who play 100$+ sts and asked if they had any reads/pointers and they basically both said; Very good, no reads, try and avoid hah so i brainfreeze and flat the flop , on the river i took a really long time before jamming, because i feel like, turning my hand into a bluff on the river, needs some thought, so didnt wanna snap jam and took some time before jamming it. altho i think he knew i was on a draw, i just dno if my play is correct here at all...No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$200 + $3.50 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBspankykirky420 SBHero580 Effective Stacks: 21bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero calls 10, spankykirky raises to 40, Hero calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) spankykirky bets 60, Hero calls 60 Turn (200, 2 players) spankykirky bets 100, Hero calls 100 River (400, 2 players) spankykirky checks, Hero goes all-in 380, spankykirky goes all-in 220 Final Pot: 1000 spankykirky shows Hero shows a flush, Ace high Hero wins 1000 ( won +420 ) spankykirky lost -420
also, ive had some other questions for u mers, but didnt wanna bother u on aim... 1) AFAIK u use lolsteamrollers hud out of the 2p2 thing, i think this is a very clear and handy hud as well, and also use it, however, heres the question... if u have more then 2 tables up at a time (i imagine this happening, because i always see u regged in like 60 tables lol ) doesnt it cloud too much of the actual game? or how big a screen do u have and do u advise this? 2) forgot this one for now lol :P
67s hand looks fine if you flat flop, which you probably shouldn't. I'm not sure what the question is, you can't fold turn, and I think this pre/flop/turn line from him is very rarely a bluff so we can't jam.
1) You can use different sizes of his HUD. I actually overlap tables on a 25.5 inch monitor - I learned that tilts the shit out of most people but I don't find overlapping annoying at all.
Mers, how many tables do you usually play? I used to get the impression that you 2-3 tabled but have found that to be wrong. I started off 4 tabling but occasionally get 5 or 6 going because I like to stay registered for the $350 & $500 if I can since waits are usually longer. I think I'll def stick with my plan right now, at least until I'm more experienced. I can't imagine anyone doing more than 6 optimally for HU, even if they're all STs.
I play 3-5 tables. I'm usually in like 12 lobbies but that's just to maximise action. It's like how airlines sell more seats than they have because they know some people won't show up.
do you play 3-5 tables st only or also turbos?
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