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Donk King1's picture
Few general questions.

Hi people... i just joined this site as a standard member just to have a look at the videos, and i really like what i am seeing!  Firstly i am a regular 45 man sng grinder and do quite well at the low stakes turbo games, but i want to move onto heads ups for a less swingy, and more consistant and deeper game. Firstly i would rate myself as compleatly new to heads ups.  I understand position raising, cbetting etc... but am just trying to get to grasp with some of the intermediate stuff like flop texutres etc and some basic hand reading!Firstly i currantly have a bankroll of $940.  I want to start grinding heads ups at the $20 level.  I was going to play the turbo ones, but i want it to be as least reliant on luck as possible so i want to become so skilled and just crush the $20 regular games.  Am i right in saying that the regular games are less swingy and ui will be able to have a more consistant graph? Also is my bankroll ok for the $20 games? I also do not know wheather to study and play or just study and play in a week or so.  Do not get me wrong i am a solid player, but just need to learn basics of heads up and master them.  A response would be great.  Thanks Donk King1

Boulases's picture
1k bankroll is sng 10 $ imo ,

1k bankroll is sng 10 $ imo , and move up after later when you will have a roi of 5 % + on 2k game ... ( not so long )  Am i right in saying that the regular games are less swingy and ui will be able to have a more consistant graph?  More you roi is big , smaller will be your variation ...  just find where you have the best roi ...   (I also do not know wheather to study and play or just study and play in a week or so.  Do not get me wrong i am a solid player, but just need to learn basics of heads up and master them.  A response would be great. ) look many video , after find who is the coach style you like the more , look 1 video before every session you will play and try to think like this .... What rypac13 will say about this situation ? did mersenneary like this play ?   hope i help you whit my basic english skill :)   

Donk King1's picture
:) your the man thanks

:) your the man thanks alot!!! although, are you sure its 100sngs for heads up? i heard that 50 buyins is sufficient..

Boulases's picture
my advise  ..    This is from

my advise  ..  This is from vanweller ( deucecraked coach ) , the theory is thas , the roi gonna influence the number of buy-in ...  roi 5% - 125 buy-in7.5% - 90 buy-in10 % - 60 buy-in    

IgorSp's picture
My advice for you start

My advice for you start playing 5.25 and play it until you comfortable with this form of poker i say 500 games should be ok.If you win those games and comfortable with your winrate and think you understand husng you can use 30BI rules to move up cause your main goal move up as quickly as possible, of cause you should prepare to drop down if things will not go good.

Valuelol's picture
I always tend to be not too

I always tend to be not too conservative, if you think you have an edge.. play the 20s when you hit a downswing from the start.. go to the 10$ there you should have a high enough ROI.. if you start working on your HU game todaygl

Donk King1's picture
Thanks alot for the advice

Thanks alot for the advice people! i think i am going to start by playing at the $20 regular speed level.  If i drop down to around $800, i will know that i am not good enough to beat the $20 level yet, and will drop down to $10. Thanks!!!

RyPac13's picture
How'd you do?

How'd you do?

Donk King1's picture
Hi people.   I just read over

Hi people. I just read over this forum, and realised how kind and nice people were here when i first started!  Basically since joining this site i studied and worked so hard on my game!  I really did come in as a bad poker player who didnt even have a clue about position! I didnt even know the diffrence between a raise and a 3bet, and this was just in march! After studying every video on this site, i decided i was going to take the plunge and quit my day job (which was overly boring) and although i wasnt making much money from husng, i thought as i had some money in the bank i would start focusing on my game propperly and study and strive to improve! With the help of this site and a few friends, alot of hard work and persistance, i have just had my first $10,000 month without playing higher than $60, so super happy there! I only stumbled upon this forum by accident as i typed my name into google and this came up (along with some other convos abotu what a asshole i am when i was tilt chatting :) ) so i thought it would be good just to track back to when i first started and actually smile at how far iv come and let people know that hard work does pay off.. obv im just getting started and im not even nearly decent enough to get to where i want to be, but overall big thanks to this site, and the people helping me when i first started!  

RyPac13's picture
That's an awesome update,

That's an awesome update, well worth the wait.  Very happy for you, keep us posted, but I love hearing stories like this.Keep up the good work.

Donk King1's picture
TY Ryan... i think i will

TY Ryan... i think i will check back here in this forum every now and again and give a general update to how iv been doing... Ill make this like a little blog :) Do you own husng.com?

Donk King1's picture
Just a quick question, Last

Just a quick question, Last month i played over 5000 hyper turbos, do you think this is a good enough sample size to safley say that my ROI is about accurate?.  I notice that i do significantly better when 1 tabling than 2 tabling, because i adjust my ranges so much better when im 1 tabling.  I have been advised by some people crushing right now like chadder0, that i should atleast try to reguarly 2 table.. how true do you think this is?  should i sacrafice ROI for volume? The thing is that when im 2 tabling i notice i make alot more mistakes than when im 1 tabling, and i have a general much better feel for my opponent when im 1 tabling and i tend to be pretty robotic when 2 tabling, EG im jammin A5o vs a 70% opener, but i wont adjust to my 2nd opponent who is only opening 45% and obv this is a mistake as i think flatting vs him does better... And just play the same and its only after that i review my session that i spot these mistakes... any advice on improving on 2 tabling maybe?  I just bought a new computer with a big screen so maybe this will help in comparison to my 15" laptop? Would you say its bad if i just 1 table and dont work on improving my 2 table game?  

RyPac13's picture
What are your results like 2

What are your results like 2 tabling vs 1 tabling?  Games, ROI/winrate is ideal, separate by buyin level if necessary.I'm one of the owners, yes.

Donk King1's picture
Well in turbos my ROI 2

Well in turbos my ROI 2 tabling is 1% and 1 tabling its 5%.. in hyper turbos 2 tablng is 1% and 1 tabling is 4%...

Donk King1's picture
btw i only play hyper trbos

btw i only play hyper trbos now, so turbos are irrelavant

RyPac13's picture
You should probably 1 table

You should probably 1 table primarily and try to focus on playing 2 tables when you have the same opponent available to 2 table.  That way your actions and reads are more consistent on each table and you don't need to worry about adjusting to two separate opponents.Over time I suspect you'll improve your 2 tabling and start opening it up against 2 different opponents.  If you keep finding yourself struggling to 2 table, drop down as low as you need to and play 30 minute 2 table sessions a few times a week until you're more comfortable.It sometimes takes players a little while to adjust, but usually long term you'll get more comfortable and precise on your 2 tabling gameplay.

Donk King1's picture
Hi Ryan, maybe this isnt the

Hi Ryan, maybe this isnt the right forum to post this, but i thought I might aswell.. im not trying to turn this into a strategy convo, and i dont play turbos anymore, but i was playing around with my lappy and came across one of ur vids, so i felt like watching it, and you were playing a $115 turbo.  You had notes on a player saying semi loose? and 4b shoves 33 40bbs deep. Basically i just wanted to ask you about the first hand.  You have A8s on the button, and raise, he flats. Board comes 4k5r.  He checks and you checked back.  how comes you didnt cbet this board? its like super dry, and while you have some showdown value, how good is this going to be by the river?  The way the hand turns out is pretty good because i he leads 2 on turn giving you a flush draw and you hit your flush on the river and your right he can never put you on kx now so he will call your river bet with 4x or 5x. But if you have notes on him saying hes loose, do you not think its good to c bet and barrel any decent turn and riv cards? or is your thinking more along the lines that its so early in a tourney and u just wana keep pots small as poss and jst take him to value town... maybe im in a v aggro mindset from hypers where u cnt really afford to be letting hands go so easily? it was just a bit weird to me that i didnt see a cbet here..  

RyPac13's picture
Nice observation, from how

Nice observation, from how you describe the situation a c-bet is preferred there.