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kepelrs's picture
Stars Hyper Turbos Graph Inside

Hi everyone, I've been playing strictly by the Nash charts on those $5 hyperturbos on stars, but i haven't been getting any good results over 357 games:http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/805/unledoz.jpgAny ideas on whether this is just a bad run or what kind of winrate was I supposed to be having by playing Nash at these games?I mean, 357 games isn't soo little after all, and being that these tourneys are full of totally bad players, wasnt I supposed to be having an edge?Thanks!

Marzipannase's picture
Use less Nash and more

Use less Nash and more Brain.Why u wanna play (Nash) unexploitable when you play such terrible players?

Marzipannase

kepelrs's picture
Hmm, this is not about brain

Hmm, this is not about brain beating the $5's ...basically this whole thing is supposed to be an experiment with the nash charts.Assuming that most ppl at the $5's hyperturbos won't know/use the calling charts, using just nash was supposed to be a guaranteed (small) edge over the majority, since calling looser or tighter than the charts is gonna do nothing but give up EV...Am I mistaken?

Laroutchezxz's picture
When you say you used

When you say you used strickly NASH, are you talking about ''push chart''  or ''calling chart'' too?If you used the ''calling chart'' , its definitely bad , assuming you are playing random opponents who generally don't push enough as well.So you cannot play strickly NASH for the reason that you will play only IP (push chart is a decent way to play IP against random , but really really not the best way to , at least over 6-7 BB imo)You have to play oop too!!!! and using the calling chart is only decent if you know your opponent use the ''push chart'' . Its a kind of counter-nash.Its my own point of wiew , based on what I'v learned on that site.Let me know your thoughts about thatDavid 

kepelrs's picture
Hi David, thanks for your

Hi David, thanks for your thoughts! I understand using the calling charts against people who dont push using the push chart is bad, so for this experiment I was only testing the charts when IP and playing when oop differently.Basically what ended up happening this far into the experiment is that I'm winning about 1bb/100  from the BB and losing 10bb/100 when playing from the SB (which is where the experiment is supposed to be happening).You're definetly right about the fact that i have to play oop too, where the chart wont help me... I overlook that part pretty bad, even though it still doesnt explain how can something unexplotable be bleeding 10bb/100...I'll give this experiment a little more thought and try to figure out whats not right about it ;) Thanks for your responses!