No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNREGTARD11420 BBHero1580 Effective Stacks: 71bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is BBREGTARD1 raises to 60, Hero raises to 160, REGARD1 calls 100 Flop (320, 2 players) Hero bets 160, REGTARD1 calls 160 Turn (640, 2 players) Hero checks, REGTARD1 bets 300, Hero calls 300 River (1240, 2 players) Hero bets 960, REGTARD1 foldsFinal Pot: 2200Hero wins 2200 ( won +620 )I played this reg amost 400 times, and I'm crushing him (he got -18% ROI and -17,3 expect vs me) so I know really well his tendencies.He 3bets A LOT, with different 3bet size but he's cbets often in his 3bets pots and plays OOP in raised pots, fit or fold. He's able to fold to thin bets and he's never bluff raise the river. When he bets he usually got one pair+. Sometimes he like to hero call big river bets . For the sake of the hand I think this is enough.I think I can make 2/3 on the flop instead of 1/2, to build up a bigger pot but since my std cbet is half pot I thought he could suspect something... so I make it half pot.On the turn there's no reason to raise, since my raise make him fold his bluffs and if he's got something with value like sets he can't call (without a flush). River is a std shove since he's hero calling sometimes, and he's never bluffing, so if he's never bluffing he would checks back all his stuff, shoving here allows me to pick up some extra ev when he does herocallingdoes it sounds correct?
I think a bigger c-bet is best as well, I really don't expect to induce much on this turn and most stuff is still calling anyway, I also think a bigger c-bet makes it easier for Qx to just jam over rather than that being too much of an overbet.Turn and river are pretty weird spots. I think it's OK to check turn, especially if he is capable of turning made hands into bluffs, but most people aren't. Because of that I would usually just bet small and try to get two streets of value out of worse diamonds. If you check you have to check/call I think. Funny river. If he's value betting turn I think he's going to continue on this river because his range just improved. He could be bluffing as well. So I would check/raise, though your read does mitigate it a decent bit. I just think he's betting with most everything he's calling a shove with anyway and that you can get more value from bluffs. Your line also has no air in it.
I don't have anything worth posting, so I decided t hijack other members thread in order to post questions... I will keep the hands in their thread but if a concept isn't completely clear I will post it in my thread
I have some c-betting questions for you. First hand, readless, you raise from the button, and the flop comes...1. A82, you have K42. AKQ, you have T63. 774, you have K24. 774, you have A25. KsTs5h, you have 646. A82, you have Q2 Which of these do you c-bet, if any or all?
Ok :) as said on Yoni's thread I'm cbetting very often but I can't tell you the percentage... btw1. cbet2. check3. cbet4. cbet5. cbet/check (not sure)6. cbet
percentage isn't important, I have no idea what % I cbet, it's all about spots :)And, cool. I wanted to make sure you were c-betting in these situations, I think they are all c-bets. It seems like the only board you have problems with is the AKQ type. I still think it's best to c-bet your entire range here readless. I'm assuming you would know to c-bet with 54o - while having showdown value does increase the value from checking, I don't think it does it so much that c-betting isn't best. We don't want random hands to realize their equity, we don't want to be bluffed out on the turn (and we can't call turn, his range will still be strong enough that it's a fold), and I think you overestimate the % of his flatting range that hits this.
percentage isn't important, I have no idea what % I cbet, it's all about spots :)And, cool. I wanted to make sure you were c-betting in these situations, I think they are all c-bets. It seems like the only board you have problems with is the AKQ type. I still think it's best to c-bet your entire range here readless. I'm assuming you would know to c-bet with 54o - while having showdown value does increase the value from checking, I don't think it does it so much that c-betting isn't best. We don't want random hands to realize their equity, we don't want to be bluffed out on the turn (and we can't call turn, his range will still be strong enough that it's a fold), and I think you overestimate the % of his flatting range that hits this.You got the point(the underlined part is exactly what I'm thinking about) :)
hh9No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero2102 SBPRO 1 898 Effective Stacks: 30bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players)Hero is BBPRO1 raises to 60, Hero raises to 150, PRO1 calls 90 Flop (300, 2 players) Hero bets 120, PRO1 raise to 379 , Hero foldsFinal Pot: 799I think his raise here doesn't contains much air, so I think this is an easy fold...Maybe I should take a different line?
I prefer a bigger 3bet pre, I like your flop line, definitely fold to this raise."As stack size decrease, also our 3bet size decrease" Cit. HokieGreg HUMaybe I'm missing some thoughts... I hear that in a vid, but maybe I misunderstood something... why you would 3bet larger then? HH 10 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBVillain1400 BBHero1600 Effective Stacks: 28bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players)Hero is BBVillain raises to 100, Hero calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) Hero checks, Villain bets 150, Hero calls 150 Turn (500, 2 players) Hero checks, Villain bets 400, Hero foldsI out villain on a strong ace here, he didn't take this like unless he got real value.So let's suppose I'm a right and he's got an big A that he don't wanna fold, there is no value in raising even if we got a ton of outs.The real question is on the turn... I'm using a MasterLJ spreadsheet and it shows me this Turn To River -$233,33 Amount we must make $233,33 Pot Size (after we call) $1.300,00 Amount Behind $500,00 I think there's a error because he's will have 750 behind... btwSo, obv,we don't get immidiate odds to call but our call could be profitable if I'll 233 on the river, so I think I made the wrong decision, since probably he's not folding on the river and is it profitable to call... In term of maths, if we bet 233 eveytime we hit we'are making a BE call on the turn, if we can get more than that is +ev to call. If we stack him off more than 1/3 of the times our call is +ev... and thinking about his line I think we should make itSo what's your thoughts?HH 11 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBVillain1540 SBHero1460 Effective Stacks: 73bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is SBHero raises to 40, Villain calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) Villain checks, Hero bets 40, Villain calls 40 Turn (160, 2 players) Villain checks, Hero checks River (160, 2 players) Villain checks, Hero checks???I'm playing on a site where players click random buttons, so they are calling a lot with gutshots etc... when I'm playing on FTP, i'm betting the turn close to 100%, when I'm playing on PS.it i'm checking it most of the times... I know is a strange thought but basically I'm playing vs 2$ fishes... but I don't know maybe villain range contains enough hands that we beat and we can bet for value and eventually fold to a raise or shut down to bet the river
Your standard 3bet size goes down in equilibrium, but we can still be exploitative with the type of hands we're using each sizing for. 88-TT do not play nearly as well with smaller 3-bets. There's no need to use a constant sizing without really good reason.The 97s is usually a flop raise get it in. What makes you think he has a strong ace on the flop? c-bet %? c-bet sizing tells? I would call turn.There are some differences between the population tendencies of FTP and Stars players, but I don't think they are as such to make this a different play. I would usually bet small or check, those are going to be pretty close in expectation. I'd also overbet river against most.
Your standard 3bet size goes down in equilibrium, but we can still be exploitative with the type of hands we're using each sizing for. 88-TT do not play nearly as well with smaller 3-bets. There's no need to use a constant sizing without really good reason.Can you elaborate a little bit?HH 12Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1420 SBDanniolloCT1580 Effective Stacks: 71bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is BBDanniolloCT raises to 60, Hero raises to 180, DanniolloCT calls 120 Flop (360, 2 players) Hero bets 180, DanniolloCT calls 180 Turn (720, 2 players) Hero bets 240, DanniolloCT calls 240 River (1200, 2 players) Hero checks, DanniolloCT bets 900, Hero goes all-in 820 No reads so fa... on the turn, I make a size that allows me to shove the river, but maybe I should bet bigger? Or just shove directly on the turn?
"Can you elaborate a little bit?"Well, clearly, some hands play better with different size 3bets. There's no need to make it big with AA, because a hand like J8o isn't profitably calling. On the other hand, when you have a hand like AK, J8o is profitably calling in position when you make it small. Thus, I recommend varying your 3bet size based on the properties of your hand. AK, 99, some bluffs work better as bigger sizings, and premium pairs, KJ, KQ, KTs, etc work better with smaller sizings.I would bet both flop and turn bigger with the 88. People are not folding pairs or most draws to a bigger sizing. Turn is definitely too small imo.
hh 13Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBsalvo30791500 BBHero1500 Effective Stacks: 75bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is BBsalvo3079 raises to 60, Hero raises to 180, salvo3079 calls 120 Flop (360, 2 players) Hero checks, salvo3079 bets 120, Hero calls 120 Turn (600, 2 players) Hero checks, salvo3079 bets 120, Hero foldsFinal Pot: 720 salvo3079 wins 720 ( won +300 ) Hero lost -300 Villain is unknow, 20 hands so far, he have folded 1 of 3 of my 3bets... I checked because he seems stationy and I think that flop hits him a lot... his line is akward and I don't know what's the best line... maybe I should raise and if he calles I gotta barrel on the river...
I would cbet small and fold to a raise. It's true that he has some Kx/Jx, but he also has a lot that's not that strong. You absolutely have to continue on turn, this is a pretty bad fold, you're definitely getting the correct odds to draw to your outs. I'd just flat.
In your #9 vid you said that one general guide for shoving against limps (at shallow stacks obv) is to imagine we'are in the SB and we are shoving against the BB, obv you said that it depends on Villain's limping range.Right now, I'm shoving fairly wide against a limp (specially 7-8 bb deep) regardless my holding, if I perceive Villain's range pretty weak. Sometimes Villain l/c Q7o at 8bb deep and he's crushing me because many times I got junk.The question is, my ATC shoves are +EV? Obv they depends on how much FE and equity we got, but... are them too marginal?Should I do the math or check if my shoving strategy against limps is good in HM or PT3?I thinking about that because when they are folding it's ok, but when I'm shoving I got terrible equity so I don't know if FE compensate when they are calling and I'm behind
I don't think shoving ATC over a limp readless 8bb deep is +EV. You can jam maybe marginally wider than what you'd jam from the small blind, but 62o is a bad jam.
It's useful, yes, you just have to be careful to use it in a valid way to solve real problems.http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/185/heads-up-sng/22-superturbo-964929/In this thread, there's an example of using it in absolutely the WRONG way. Way too many assumptions that take the problem completely away from reality.
HH 14 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBmatteo780m1510 BBHero1490 Effective Stacks: 75bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is BBmatteo780m raises to 40, Hero raises to 140, matteo780m calls 100 Flop (280, 2 players) Hero bets 180, matteo780m calls 180 Turn (640, 2 players) Hero checks, matteo780m bets 320, Hero calls 320 River (1280, 2 players) Hero checks, matteo780m bets 380, Hero calls 380 No interesting reads except for a hand in our previous match Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1540 SBmatteo780m1460 Effective Stacks: 73bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is BBmatteo780m raises to 40, Hero raises to 120, matteo780m calls 80 Flop (240, 2 players) Hero bets 120, matteo780m calls 120 Turn (480, 2 players) Hero bets 320, matteo780m goes all-in 1220, Hero calls 900 River (2920, 2 players, 1 all-in) Final Pot: 2920 Hero shows three of a kind, Kings matteo780m shows a straight, Ten to Ace matteo780m wins 2920 ( won +1460 ) Hero lost -1460 Maybe I should 2barrel small like 200, but I think I would hate life when he's shoving on me (he demonstrated he can shoves draws) ... and also a T in one of the worst can we can see
Especially given that history, I would just bet/call the turn. Yes, it sucks when he has Tx, yes, that's going to be a chunk of his range, but there's also going to be a lot more Jx/9x/8x/cc etc where bet/calling does best against.
I would just bet/call the turnYep just after I c/c that I thought I made a mistake, btw what size should I bet? If we're c/c his shove we should bet 1/3 or 2/3 allow some room for the reshove. Btw, the KK hand shows that he's capable of shoving draws even if I bet big the turn... so what size do you make?
Random question:Right now I'm playing 3 levels, and this months I run insanely hot ai 100 euros but run terribly at 175 and 250 euros level... against the same field.So a question pop up into my mind, maybe I shouldn't mix 3 different levels because I can run great/poorly at one level and it can influence my overall winnings. But I don't know because, I'm playing in a +ev field, so I think is ok to mix different levels, but I don't know if I've considered all the things....So what your thoughts about mixing 3 different levels?
I think mixing levels is great. It helps make sure you don't intentify yourself as a "$x reg", helps you shot take more comfortable, and leads to quicker moves up in stakes. Just make sure that you're not playing too many tables when you're playing higher stakes than you might be used to.
HH 15 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBFabioomarp21420 BBHero1580 Effective Stacks: 71bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is BBFabioomarp2 raises to 40, Hero raises to 140, Fabioomarp2 calls 100 Flop (280, 2 players) Hero checks, Fabioomarp2 bets 200, Hero calls 200 Turn (680, 2 players) Hero checks, Fabioomarp2 bets 280, Hero calls 280 River (1240, 2 players) Hero checks, Fabioomarp2 goes all-in 800, Hero foldsFinal Pot: 2040 Fabioomarp2 wins 2040 ( won +620 ) Hero lost -620No reads HH 16 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBPoggiorsini1700 SBHero1300 Effective Stacks: 65bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is SBHero raises to 40, Poggiorsini calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) Poggiorsini bets 80, Hero folds Final Pot: 160 Poggiorsini wins 160 ( won +40 ) Hero lost -40 again no readsI think I should peal at least one... This is a common spot but my tendency is to fold because I want to avoid tough spots... if a turn is a 3 and villain bets again we should fold?
Flop is absolutely a c-bet readless with the AQ. I think it's a significant mistake to check against most opponents. We let him realize his equity much better by checking.I'm calling with middle pair for sure. Don't try to avoid tough spots - try to do the play that has the best expectation.
HH 17 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBtatanka8771955 BBHero1045 Effective Stacks: 21bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players)Hero is BB tatanka877 calls 25, Hero raises to 150, tatanka877 calls 100 Flop (300, 2 players) Hero bets 150, tatanka877 calls 150 Turn (600, 2 players) Hero goes all-in 745,Villain is an awful station, the turn is the worst card in the deck... what should we do considering we got an slightly over PSB left?If we checks another heart could come on the river and devaluate our hand, if we shoves maybe he could call sometimes with worse but many times we are crushed After this hand, can you take a look at hokie's thread?Btw I'm crossposting my question hereMainly, I'm playing on ps.it , on that site a strange situation is happening... there are I believe 6 Stars Online Team members who got a great deal... (at least 100% rb, yep at least, one of them got something like 130% till SNE) and we are paying 8% rake on every hu. In order to BE we nee to win 54%, that's a huge % winrate. I think I got an edge on them but I don't know if it justify sitting they... I'm risking too much and they are risking none... Also there is no chance, I repeat, no chance to get respected by them, you know they are printing money with that deal...What is your advice? Study them till death or just avoid them?what do you think?
Thanks for bump. I make it a little more pre with 99, but it's close. On this flop, I think we should bet a little more to set up a more comfortable turn shove. Even 175 means it's 720 into 650, which is basically pot. I'm still getting it in as played, many flush draws will raise flop and 6x is his most likely hand.
I think he meant that 5X is his mostly likely hand. Like Mers said, most flush draw combos are raising the flop. It's pretty likely you still have the best hand and he has a ton of combo draws in his range that make sense and can likely continue.
also, since he is an "awful station" i think a smaller turn bet is probably better and assures you that you wont fold out any of his weaker draws/3X that might fold to a jam, but will find a reason to call a small turn bet. i think villains range is relatively weak here, but given that hes a huge station i think he can find a ton of hands that will "call to see a river"...then the pot is so bloated he'll likely stack off with anything...standard exploitative play vs fishbowls. i would almsot always jam here vs regs bc it looks more drawy so I expect to get called lighter.
ty Hokie... well you are right, we can make a smaller bet, so the station isn't afraid to call. Even awful station would fold a shove here many times while they will peal another card if we bet smallerIf Villain shoves over our small bet are you calling?
I just played a coumple of match vs him :)I don't have any read but he's clicking random buttonsHe's limp/3bet AKoHe calls cbets and fire out on the turn with nothingAnd he's pretty passive even with TPHH 18 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBgigibuffon1560 SBHero1440 Effective Stacks: 72bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is SBHero raises to 40, gigibuffon calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) gigibuffon checks, Hero bets 40, gigibuffon calls 40 Turn (160, 2 players) gigibuffon checks, Hero bets 120, gigibuffon raises to 680, Hero foldsFinal Pot: 960gigibuffon wins 960 ( won +200 )Hero lost -200In game I fear some two pair hand and so I folded since I got an massive edge on him, but reviewing this again, I got some doubts on it. OK another question... I just played with a guy who has these statsLet's see if I'm adapting well...I should limp a wide range, and raising my top range because there's no reaason to r/f marginal hands when I can limp and stab the flop. If he 3bets he fold a lot when I 4bet, so I should 4bet marginal holdings and flat hands that play great postflop and also that dominate his 3bet range. He's playing fit or fold so the main thing is to adapt preflop. With small PP I would just flat here because I don't wanna build up a huge pot calling his 3bet, and I don't wanna c/f too much since he's so aggressive on the flop.What do you think? Do you have any other tip to adapt better? hh 19 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1190 SBA.DaCol1810 Effective Stacks: 60bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is BBA.DaCol raises to 60, Hero calls 40 Flop (120, 2 players) Hero checks, A.DaCol bets 60, Hero raises to 180, A.DaCol calls 120 Turn (480, 2 players) Hero checks, A.DaCol bets 225, Hero calls 225 River (930, 2 players) Hero checks, A.DaCol goes all-in 1345, Hero folds Final Pot: 2275 A.DaCol wins 2275 ( won +465 ) Hero lost -465 He's playing fit or fold... Maybe I should make it bigger on the flop, and just fold on the turn.... idk
I'm getting kings in against the opponent described. The 2 hits basically nothing, and it's a lot to put him on a slowplayed two pair/set, especially on this drawy flop.
"Let's see if I'm adapting well... I should limp a wide range, and raising my top range because there's no reaason to r/f marginal hands when I can limp and stab the flop. If he 3bets he fold a lot when I 4bet, so I should 4bet marginal holdings and flat hands that play great postflop and also that dominate his 3bet range. He's playing fit or fold so the main thing is to adapt preflop. With small PP I would just flat here because I don't wanna build up a huge pot calling his 3bet, and I don't wanna c/f too much since he's so aggressive on the flop. What do you think? Do you have any other tip to adapt better?"It depends how he reacts to limps, but yes, sounds good. With small pocket pairs you absolutely should raise and jam over his 3bet, rather than just limping in - you'll easily have the fold equity against such a wide range.
HH 20 Villain is a fishNotes:he's folding a lot in limped potsif he lose a hand he get out of controlRaise strong hands on scary boards I think my raise on the river is std, but what about after he 3bets? My notes suggest a fold but I don't know... his small bet is akward... Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero1450 BBsbrinz491550 Effective Stacks: 48bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players)Hero is SBHero raises to 60, sbrinz49 calls 30 Flop (120, 2 players) sbrinz49 checks, Hero checks Turn (120, 2 players) sbrinz49 checks, Hero bets 60, sbrinz49 calls 60 River (240, 2 players) sbrinz49 bets 90, Hero raises to 300, sbrinz49 raises to 660, Hero? HH 21Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBgrosso77765 SBHero2235 Effective Stacks: 15bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players)Hero is SBHero raises to 100, grosso77 calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) grosso77 checks, Hero bets 100, grosso77 calls 100 Turn (400, 2 players) This is a std spot that I don't know exactly how to think, I def need help...stack are pretty akward, since the eff stack on the turn are 565 with a 400 pot...A 7 could be n his range, also many draws and overs... the thing is if we bet we are commited to call a shove HH 22 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SB00luckino1430 BBHero1570 Effective Stacks: 72bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is BB00luckino raises to 60, Hero calls 40 Flop (120, 2 players) Hero checks, 00luckino bets 60, Hero calls 60 Turn (240, 2 players) Hero checks, 00luckino bets 60, Hero calls 60 River (360, 2 players) Hero checks, 00luckino checks Final Pot: 360 Villain is fishy, I got some reads on him:3x pre but with AA he's making 2x@ High blinds he raise 3x and fold to a shoveMinbets weakHero caller, bluffy and calling stationif he pots river he got air On the turn I don't know, I think on the flop is std, and on the turn my read regarding minbets allows me to call HH 23 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1430 SBNedzone8741570 Effective Stacks: 72bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is BBNedzone874 raises to 60, Hero raises to 160, Nedzone874 calls 100 Flop (320, 2 players) Hero bets 160, Nedzone874 raises to 480, Hero folds Notes:Hyperstation even on monochrome flop is calling two streets with bottom pair@ high blinds he's raising 3x and 2x and fold to a shove, he allows me to limp/stab wide in 161 he's folding 44% at my cbets (in raised pots, not in 3bets pots)I'm using this stat also in 3bet pot, so if he's folding a lot in raised pots OOP, we can assume he's folding a lot also in 3bet pots, does it make sense?So we cbet and when he raised we hate like, maybe I should check or am I a bit result oriented? hh 24 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBedomadonna1810 BBHero1190 Effective Stacks: 60bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is BBedomadonna raises to 40, Hero calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, edomadonna bets 40, Hero calls 40 Turn (160, 2 players) Hero checks, edomadonna bets 100, Hero calls 100 River (360, 2 players) Hero bets 180, edomadonna goes all-in 1630, Hero foldsFinal Pot: 2170edomadonna wins 2170 ( won +360 )Hero lost -360Overall he's aggresive, I got only one note on him btw: he's calling c/r with gutshotsWhat about my bet on the river? I can get value from a K or a J since my donkbet range on the river contains maybe a lot of busted draws...When he raises me I think is a std fold... what do you think?
c-bet flop with the 86s without strong reads to the contrary. It really sucks once he raises, my calling decision depends on how out of line/fishy I've seen him been (can he be a moron with Qx?), going to be pretty close.Bet/call turn with the K8, yes a 7 is a good part of his range, but oh well. There's plenty more 8x/draws to get value out of.33 hand looks fine, pretty close on turn.c-bet/fold is perfectly good with the KQ.I'm fine with the river lead with K7, as I think a decent amount of his Kx may check back. I'd probably bet more, though. Definitely folding to river shove.
I would check/call the flop. You do have great equity, but not vs the range that he is going to bet 3bet shoving your c/r with (you are basically flipping). When he flats and you brick the turn, you are in a pretty wierd stack size situation as well. You have much better expectation flatting and leading 9/diamond turns.
hh 26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBsuino821030 BBHero1970 Effective Stacks: 34bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players)Hero is BBsuino82 raises to 60, Hero raises to 150, suino82 calls 90 Flop (300, 2 players) Hero bets 150, suino82 calls 150 Turn (600, 2 players) Hero ???std shove?Villain is think player, not great but not a random fish, not much read btw, he's 3bet pp and big aces, I don't know much about his 3bet calling range tho
I prefer a little smaller 3bet pre with your KQ/KJ/QJ/JJ+ to encourage calls from more dominated hands. maybe 60-135/140...I think that small difference impacts a lot of players calling ranges quite a bit at these particular stacks. 10-25bb deeper, I prefer the sizing you used with this range. My other 3bet sizing, for AJ+/77-TT/3bet bluffs, at this stack size would be 60-165ish - as i think it encourages less calls and more shove/fold which this range does waayyyyyy better against.Postflop, damn, this board MURDERS his 3bet calling range!!! Cbet a little bigger! I'd do 210ish and expect him to really almost never fold. This sets up better turn stacks for you also, if he calls the 210 pot would be 720 and remaining stacks would be 670...a lot better for you to just jam any turn. It's a wierd turn spot though bc I expect villain to virtually never have AX in his range, definitely QT a lot...would also expect on such a wet board for his flatting range to be relatively weak (<KX), so I'm thinking he won't have too many hands that can call a turn jam that you actually beat...I just think you are going to see QT, or a slowplayed 2 pair a ton more when called.Stacks are a little wierd for a bet/call, but I think it's best and allows him to make a lot more mistakes. I'd continue 240, jam almost all rivers when flatted. I'd def call a jam over the bet though, as I expect at these stack sizes that sizing will induce shoves from worse hands that would have otherwise folded to a turn jam (combo draws, hero plays, draws, etc). Plus, when you after betting the turn, you need such low equity to be able to call jam so its pretty damn easy.Interested to hear what Mers has to say about turn situation on this one.
I agree 100% with Hokie. Shrugging and bet/calling turn. AT/QT/A8 are in his range, but that's dwarfed by all the other hands to get value from. It's awkward, but bet/call it off.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNREGTARD11420 BBHero1580 Effective Stacks: 71bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB REGTARD1 raises to 60, Hero raises to 160, REGARD1 calls 100 Flop (320, 2 players) Hero bets 160, REGTARD1 calls 160 Turn (640, 2 players) Hero checks, REGTARD1 bets 300, Hero calls 300 River (1240, 2 players) Hero bets 960, REGTARD1 folds Final Pot: 2200 Hero wins 2200 ( won +620 ) I played this reg amost 400 times, and I'm crushing him (he got -18% ROI and -17,3 expect vs me) so I know really well his tendencies.He 3bets A LOT, with different 3bet size but he's cbets often in his 3bets pots and plays OOP in raised pots, fit or fold. He's able to fold to thin bets and he's never bluff raise the river. When he bets he usually got one pair+. Sometimes he like to hero call big river bets . For the sake of the hand I think this is enough.I think I can make 2/3 on the flop instead of 1/2, to build up a bigger pot but since my std cbet is half pot I thought he could suspect something... so I make it half pot.On the turn there's no reason to raise, since my raise make him fold his bluffs and if he's got something with value like sets he can't call (without a flush). River is a std shove since he's hero calling sometimes, and he's never bluffing, so if he's never bluffing he would checks back all his stuff, shoving here allows me to pick up some extra ev when he does herocallingdoes it sounds correct?
I think a bigger c-bet is best as well, I really don't expect to induce much on this turn and most stuff is still calling anyway, I also think a bigger c-bet makes it easier for Qx to just jam over rather than that being too much of an overbet.Turn and river are pretty weird spots. I think it's OK to check turn, especially if he is capable of turning made hands into bluffs, but most people aren't. Because of that I would usually just bet small and try to get two streets of value out of worse diamonds. If you check you have to check/call I think. Funny river. If he's value betting turn I think he's going to continue on this river because his range just improved. He could be bluffing as well. So I would check/raise, though your read does mitigate it a decent bit. I just think he's betting with most everything he's calling a shove with anyway and that you can get more value from bluffs. Your line also has no air in it.
I don't have anything worth posting, so I decided t hijack other members thread in order to post questions... I will keep the hands in their thread but if a concept isn't completely clear I will post it in my thread
I have some c-betting questions for you. First hand, readless, you raise from the button, and the flop comes...1. A82, you have K42. AKQ, you have T63. 774, you have K24. 774, you have A25. KsTs5h, you have 646. A82, you have Q2 Which of these do you c-bet, if any or all?
Ok :) as said on Yoni's thread I'm cbetting very often but I can't tell you the percentage... btw1. cbet2. check3. cbet4. cbet5. cbet/check (not sure)6. cbet
percentage isn't important, I have no idea what % I cbet, it's all about spots :)And, cool. I wanted to make sure you were c-betting in these situations, I think they are all c-bets. It seems like the only board you have problems with is the AKQ type. I still think it's best to c-bet your entire range here readless. I'm assuming you would know to c-bet with 54o - while having showdown value does increase the value from checking, I don't think it does it so much that c-betting isn't best. We don't want random hands to realize their equity, we don't want to be bluffed out on the turn (and we can't call turn, his range will still be strong enough that it's a fold), and I think you overestimate the % of his flatting range that hits this.
percentage isn't important, I have no idea what % I cbet, it's all about spots :) And, cool. I wanted to make sure you were c-betting in these situations, I think they are all c-bets. It seems like the only board you have problems with is the AKQ type. I still think it's best to c-bet your entire range here readless. I'm assuming you would know to c-bet with 54o - while having showdown value does increase the value from checking, I don't think it does it so much that c-betting isn't best. We don't want random hands to realize their equity, we don't want to be bluffed out on the turn (and we can't call turn, his range will still be strong enough that it's a fold), and I think you overestimate the % of his flatting range that hits this.You got the point (the underlined part is exactly what I'm thinking about) :)
hh9No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero2102 SBPRO 1 898 Effective Stacks: 30bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is BB PRO1 raises to 60, Hero raises to 150, PRO1 calls 90 Flop (300, 2 players) Hero bets 120, PRO1 raise to 379 , Hero folds Final Pot: 799 I think his raise here doesn't contains much air, so I think this is an easy fold...Maybe I should take a different line?
I prefer a bigger 3bet pre, I like your flop line, definitely fold to this raise.
I prefer a bigger 3bet pre, I like your flop line, definitely fold to this raise."As stack size decrease, also our 3bet size decrease" Cit. HokieGreg HUMaybe I'm missing some thoughts... I hear that in a vid, but maybe I misunderstood something... why you would 3bet larger then? HH 10 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBVillain1400 BBHero1600 Effective Stacks: 28bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BB Villain raises to 100, Hero calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) Hero checks, Villain bets 150, Hero calls 150 Turn (500, 2 players) Hero checks, Villain bets 400, Hero folds I out villain on a strong ace here, he didn't take this like unless he got real value.So let's suppose I'm a right and he's got an big A that he don't wanna fold, there is no value in raising even if we got a ton of outs.The real question is on the turn... I'm using a MasterLJ spreadsheet and it shows me this Turn To River -$233,33 Amount we must make $233,33 Pot Size (after we call) $1.300,00 Amount Behind $500,00 I think there's a error because he's will have 750 behind... btwSo, obv,we don't get immidiate odds to call but our call could be profitable if I'll 233 on the river, so I think I made the wrong decision, since probably he's not folding on the river and is it profitable to call... In term of maths, if we bet 233 eveytime we hit we'are making a BE call on the turn, if we can get more than that is +ev to call. If we stack him off more than 1/3 of the times our call is +ev... and thinking about his line I think we should make itSo what's your thoughts? HH 11 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBVillain1540 SBHero1460 Effective Stacks: 73bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, Villain calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) Villain checks, Hero bets 40, Villain calls 40 Turn (160, 2 players) Villain checks, Hero checks River (160, 2 players) Villain checks, Hero checks??? I'm playing on a site where players click random buttons, so they are calling a lot with gutshots etc... when I'm playing on FTP, i'm betting the turn close to 100%, when I'm playing on PS.it i'm checking it most of the times... I know is a strange thought but basically I'm playing vs 2$ fishes... but I don't know maybe villain range contains enough hands that we beat and we can bet for value and eventually fold to a raise or shut down to bet the river
Your standard 3bet size goes down in equilibrium, but we can still be exploitative with the type of hands we're using each sizing for. 88-TT do not play nearly as well with smaller 3-bets. There's no need to use a constant sizing without really good reason.The 97s is usually a flop raise get it in. What makes you think he has a strong ace on the flop? c-bet %? c-bet sizing tells? I would call turn.There are some differences between the population tendencies of FTP and Stars players, but I don't think they are as such to make this a different play. I would usually bet small or check, those are going to be pretty close in expectation. I'd also overbet river against most.
Your standard 3bet size goes down in equilibrium, but we can still be exploitative with the type of hands we're using each sizing for. 88-TT do not play nearly as well with smaller 3-bets. There's no need to use a constant sizing without really good reason.Can you elaborate a little bit? HH 12Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1420 SBDanniolloCT1580 Effective Stacks: 71bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB DanniolloCT raises to 60, Hero raises to 180, DanniolloCT calls 120 Flop (360, 2 players) Hero bets 180, DanniolloCT calls 180 Turn (720, 2 players) Hero bets 240, DanniolloCT calls 240 River (1200, 2 players) Hero checks, DanniolloCT bets 900, Hero goes all-in 820 No reads so fa... on the turn, I make a size that allows me to shove the river, but maybe I should bet bigger? Or just shove directly on the turn?
"Can you elaborate a little bit?"Well, clearly, some hands play better with different size 3bets. There's no need to make it big with AA, because a hand like J8o isn't profitably calling. On the other hand, when you have a hand like AK, J8o is profitably calling in position when you make it small. Thus, I recommend varying your 3bet size based on the properties of your hand. AK, 99, some bluffs work better as bigger sizings, and premium pairs, KJ, KQ, KTs, etc work better with smaller sizings.I would bet both flop and turn bigger with the 88. People are not folding pairs or most draws to a bigger sizing. Turn is definitely too small imo.
hh 13Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBsalvo30791500 BBHero1500 Effective Stacks: 75bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB salvo3079 raises to 60, Hero raises to 180, salvo3079 calls 120 Flop (360, 2 players) Hero checks, salvo3079 bets 120, Hero calls 120 Turn (600, 2 players) Hero checks, salvo3079 bets 120, Hero folds Final Pot: 720 salvo3079 wins 720 ( won +300 ) Hero lost -300 Villain is unknow, 20 hands so far, he have folded 1 of 3 of my 3bets... I checked because he seems stationy and I think that flop hits him a lot... his line is akward and I don't know what's the best line... maybe I should raise and if he calles I gotta barrel on the river...
I would cbet small and fold to a raise. It's true that he has some Kx/Jx, but he also has a lot that's not that strong. You absolutely have to continue on turn, this is a pretty bad fold, you're definitely getting the correct odds to draw to your outs. I'd just flat.
In your #9 vid you said that one general guide for shoving against limps (at shallow stacks obv) is to imagine we'are in the SB and we are shoving against the BB, obv you said that it depends on Villain's limping range.Right now, I'm shoving fairly wide against a limp (specially 7-8 bb deep) regardless my holding, if I perceive Villain's range pretty weak. Sometimes Villain l/c Q7o at 8bb deep and he's crushing me because many times I got junk.The question is, my ATC shoves are +EV? Obv they depends on how much FE and equity we got, but... are them too marginal?Should I do the math or check if my shoving strategy against limps is good in HM or PT3?I thinking about that because when they are folding it's ok, but when I'm shoving I got terrible equity so I don't know if FE compensate when they are calling and I'm behind
I don't think shoving ATC over a limp readless 8bb deep is +EV. You can jam maybe marginally wider than what you'd jam from the small blind, but 62o is a bad jam.
Did you ever use stoxev? If yes, do you think it is useful for HUSNGs?
It's useful, yes, you just have to be careful to use it in a valid way to solve real problems.http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/185/heads-up-sng/22-superturbo-964929/In this thread, there's an example of using it in absolutely the WRONG way. Way too many assumptions that take the problem completely away from reality.
HH 14 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBmatteo780m1510 BBHero1490 Effective Stacks: 75bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB matteo780m raises to 40, Hero raises to 140, matteo780m calls 100 Flop (280, 2 players) Hero bets 180, matteo780m calls 180 Turn (640, 2 players) Hero checks, matteo780m bets 320, Hero calls 320 River (1280, 2 players) Hero checks, matteo780m bets 380, Hero calls 380 No interesting reads except for a hand in our previous match Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1540 SBmatteo780m1460 Effective Stacks: 73bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB matteo780m raises to 40, Hero raises to 120, matteo780m calls 80 Flop (240, 2 players) Hero bets 120, matteo780m calls 120 Turn (480, 2 players) Hero bets 320, matteo780m goes all-in 1220, Hero calls 900 River (2920, 2 players, 1 all-in) Final Pot: 2920 Hero shows three of a kind, Kings matteo780m shows a straight, Ten to Ace matteo780m wins 2920 ( won +1460 ) Hero lost -1460 Maybe I should 2barrel small like 200, but I think I would hate life when he's shoving on me (he demonstrated he can shoves draws) ... and also a T in one of the worst can we can see
Especially given that history, I would just bet/call the turn. Yes, it sucks when he has Tx, yes, that's going to be a chunk of his range, but there's also going to be a lot more Jx/9x/8x/cc etc where bet/calling does best against.
I would just bet/call the turnYep just after I c/c that I thought I made a mistake, btw what size should I bet? If we're c/c his shove we should bet 1/3 or 2/3 allow some room for the reshove. Btw, the KK hand shows that he's capable of shoving draws even if I bet big the turn... so what size do you make?
I'd just bet 380 or so.
Random question:Right now I'm playing 3 levels, and this months I run insanely hot ai 100 euros but run terribly at 175 and 250 euros level... against the same field.So a question pop up into my mind, maybe I shouldn't mix 3 different levels because I can run great/poorly at one level and it can influence my overall winnings. But I don't know because, I'm playing in a +ev field, so I think is ok to mix different levels, but I don't know if I've considered all the things....So what your thoughts about mixing 3 different levels?
I think mixing levels is great. It helps make sure you don't intentify yourself as a "$x reg", helps you shot take more comfortable, and leads to quicker moves up in stakes. Just make sure that you're not playing too many tables when you're playing higher stakes than you might be used to.
HH 15 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBFabioomarp21420 BBHero1580 Effective Stacks: 71bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB Fabioomarp2 raises to 40, Hero raises to 140, Fabioomarp2 calls 100 Flop (280, 2 players) Hero checks, Fabioomarp2 bets 200, Hero calls 200 Turn (680, 2 players) Hero checks, Fabioomarp2 bets 280, Hero calls 280 River (1240, 2 players) Hero checks, Fabioomarp2 goes all-in 800, Hero folds Final Pot: 2040 Fabioomarp2 wins 2040 ( won +620 ) Hero lost -620No reads HH 16 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBPoggiorsini1700 SBHero1300 Effective Stacks: 65bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, Poggiorsini calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) Poggiorsini bets 80, Hero folds Final Pot: 160 Poggiorsini wins 160 ( won +40 ) Hero lost -40 again no readsI think I should peal at least one... This is a common spot but my tendency is to fold because I want to avoid tough spots... if a turn is a 3 and villain bets again we should fold?
please can you comment my last two hands?
Flop is absolutely a c-bet readless with the AQ. I think it's a significant mistake to check against most opponents. We let him realize his equity much better by checking.I'm calling with middle pair for sure. Don't try to avoid tough spots - try to do the play that has the best expectation.
HH 17 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBtatanka8771955 BBHero1045 Effective Stacks: 21bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BB tatanka877 calls 25, Hero raises to 150, tatanka877 calls 100 Flop (300, 2 players) Hero bets 150, tatanka877 calls 150 Turn (600, 2 players) Hero goes all-in 745, Villain is an awful station, the turn is the worst card in the deck... what should we do considering we got an slightly over PSB left?If we checks another heart could come on the river and devaluate our hand, if we shoves maybe he could call sometimes with worse but many times we are crushed After this hand, can you take a look at hokie's thread?Btw I'm crossposting my question hereMainly, I'm playing on ps.it , on that site a strange situation is happening... there are I believe 6 Stars Online Team members who got a great deal... (at least 100% rb, yep at least, one of them got something like 130% till SNE) and we are paying 8% rake on every hu. In order to BE we nee to win 54%, that's a huge % winrate. I think I got an edge on them but I don't know if it justify sitting they... I'm risking too much and they are risking none... Also there is no chance, I repeat, no chance to get respected by them, you know they are printing money with that deal... What is your advice? Study them till death or just avoid them?what do you think?
Mers I don't know if you saw my last hand so I bump my thread
Thanks for bump. I make it a little more pre with 99, but it's close. On this flop, I think we should bet a little more to set up a more comfortable turn shove. Even 175 means it's 720 into 650, which is basically pot. I'm still getting it in as played, many flush draws will raise flop and 6x is his most likely hand.
I'm still getting it in as played, many flush draws will raise flop and 6x is his most likely hand.Why you would shove if you put Villain on 6x?
I think he meant that 5X is his mostly likely hand. Like Mers said, most flush draw combos are raising the flop. It's pretty likely you still have the best hand and he has a ton of combo draws in his range that make sense and can likely continue.
also, since he is an "awful station" i think a smaller turn bet is probably better and assures you that you wont fold out any of his weaker draws/3X that might fold to a jam, but will find a reason to call a small turn bet. i think villains range is relatively weak here, but given that hes a huge station i think he can find a ton of hands that will "call to see a river"...then the pot is so bloated he'll likely stack off with anything...standard exploitative play vs fishbowls. i would almsot always jam here vs regs bc it looks more drawy so I expect to get called lighter.
ty Hokie... well you are right, we can make a smaller bet, so the station isn't afraid to call. Even awful station would fold a shove here many times while they will peal another card if we bet smallerIf Villain shoves over our small bet are you calling?
Yeah I meant 5x, sorry. And yep, I think bet/calling is best.
I just played a coumple of match vs him :)I don't have any read but he's clicking random buttonsHe's limp/3bet AKoHe calls cbets and fire out on the turn with nothingAnd he's pretty passive even with TPHH 18 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBgigibuffon1560 SBHero1440 Effective Stacks: 72bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, gigibuffon calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) gigibuffon checks, Hero bets 40, gigibuffon calls 40 Turn (160, 2 players) gigibuffon checks, Hero bets 120, gigibuffon raises to 680, Hero folds Final Pot: 960 gigibuffon wins 960 ( won +200 ) Hero lost -200In game I fear some two pair hand and so I folded since I got an massive edge on him, but reviewing this again, I got some doubts on it. OK another question... I just played with a guy who has these statsLet's see if I'm adapting well...I should limp a wide range, and raising my top range because there's no reaason to r/f marginal hands when I can limp and stab the flop. If he 3bets he fold a lot when I 4bet, so I should 4bet marginal holdings and flat hands that play great postflop and also that dominate his 3bet range. He's playing fit or fold so the main thing is to adapt preflop. With small PP I would just flat here because I don't wanna build up a huge pot calling his 3bet, and I don't wanna c/f too much since he's so aggressive on the flop.What do you think? Do you have any other tip to adapt better? hh 19 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1190 SBA.DaCol1810 Effective Stacks: 60bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB A.DaCol raises to 60, Hero calls 40 Flop (120, 2 players) Hero checks, A.DaCol bets 60, Hero raises to 180, A.DaCol calls 120 Turn (480, 2 players) Hero checks, A.DaCol bets 225, Hero calls 225 River (930, 2 players) Hero checks, A.DaCol goes all-in 1345, Hero folds Final Pot: 2275 A.DaCol wins 2275 ( won +465 ) Hero lost -465 He's playing fit or fold... Maybe I should make it bigger on the flop, and just fold on the turn.... idk
I'm getting kings in against the opponent described. The 2 hits basically nothing, and it's a lot to put him on a slowplayed two pair/set, especially on this drawy flop.
"Let's see if I'm adapting well... I should limp a wide range, and raising my top range because there's no reaason to r/f marginal hands when I can limp and stab the flop. If he 3bets he fold a lot when I 4bet, so I should 4bet marginal holdings and flat hands that play great postflop and also that dominate his 3bet range. He's playing fit or fold so the main thing is to adapt preflop. With small PP I would just flat here because I don't wanna build up a huge pot calling his 3bet, and I don't wanna c/f too much since he's so aggressive on the flop. What do you think? Do you have any other tip to adapt better?"It depends how he reacts to limps, but yes, sounds good. With small pocket pairs you absolutely should raise and jam over his 3bet, rather than just limping in - you'll easily have the fold equity against such a wide range.
Bigger and flop and fold turn is exactly my advice with the AT :)
HH 20 Villain is a fishNotes:he's folding a lot in limped potsif he lose a hand he get out of controlRaise strong hands on scary boards I think my raise on the river is std, but what about after he 3bets? My notes suggest a fold but I don't know... his small bet is akward... Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero1450 BBsbrinz491550 Effective Stacks: 48bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, sbrinz49 calls 30 Flop (120, 2 players) sbrinz49 checks, Hero checks Turn (120, 2 players) sbrinz49 checks, Hero bets 60, sbrinz49 calls 60 River (240, 2 players) sbrinz49 bets 90, Hero raises to 300, sbrinz49 raises to 660, Hero? HH 21Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBgrosso77765 SBHero2235 Effective Stacks: 15bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 100, grosso77 calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) grosso77 checks, Hero bets 100, grosso77 calls 100 Turn (400, 2 players) This is a std spot that I don't know exactly how to think, I def need help...stack are pretty akward, since the eff stack on the turn are 565 with a 400 pot...A 7 could be n his range, also many draws and overs... the thing is if we bet we are commited to call a shove HH 22 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SB00luckino1430 BBHero1570 Effective Stacks: 72bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB 00luckino raises to 60, Hero calls 40 Flop (120, 2 players) Hero checks, 00luckino bets 60, Hero calls 60 Turn (240, 2 players) Hero checks, 00luckino bets 60, Hero calls 60 River (360, 2 players) Hero checks, 00luckino checks Final Pot: 360 Villain is fishy, I got some reads on him:3x pre but with AA he's making 2x@ High blinds he raise 3x and fold to a shoveMinbets weakHero caller, bluffy and calling stationif he pots river he got air On the turn I don't know, I think on the flop is std, and on the turn my read regarding minbets allows me to call HH 23 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1430 SBNedzone8741570 Effective Stacks: 72bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB Nedzone874 raises to 60, Hero raises to 160, Nedzone874 calls 100 Flop (320, 2 players) Hero bets 160, Nedzone874 raises to 480, Hero folds Notes:Hyperstation even on monochrome flop is calling two streets with bottom pair@ high blinds he's raising 3x and 2x and fold to a shove, he allows me to limp/stab wide in 161 he's folding 44% at my cbets (in raised pots, not in 3bets pots)I'm using this stat also in 3bet pot, so if he's folding a lot in raised pots OOP, we can assume he's folding a lot also in 3bet pots, does it make sense?So we cbet and when he raised we hate like, maybe I should check or am I a bit result oriented? hh 24 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBedomadonna1810 BBHero1190 Effective Stacks: 60bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB edomadonna raises to 40, Hero calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, edomadonna bets 40, Hero calls 40 Turn (160, 2 players) Hero checks, edomadonna bets 100, Hero calls 100 River (360, 2 players) Hero bets 180, edomadonna goes all-in 1630, Hero folds Final Pot: 2170 edomadonna wins 2170 ( won +360 ) Hero lost -360 Overall he's aggresive, I got only one note on him btw: he's calling c/r with gutshotsWhat about my bet on the river? I can get value from a K or a J since my donkbet range on the river contains maybe a lot of busted draws...When he raises me I think is a std fold... what do you think?
c-bet flop with the 86s without strong reads to the contrary. It really sucks once he raises, my calling decision depends on how out of line/fishy I've seen him been (can he be a moron with Qx?), going to be pretty close.Bet/call turn with the K8, yes a 7 is a good part of his range, but oh well. There's plenty more 8x/draws to get value out of.33 hand looks fine, pretty close on turn.c-bet/fold is perfectly good with the KQ.I'm fine with the river lead with K7, as I think a decent amount of his Kx may check back. I'd probably bet more, though. Definitely folding to river shove.
hh 25 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBFrengoLegend1500 BBHero1500 Effective Stacks: 75bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB FrengoLegend raises to 50, Hero calls 30 Flop (100, 2 players) Hero checks, FrengoLegend bets 80, Hero raises to 200, FrengoLegend calls 120 Turn (500, 2 players) Hero checks, FrengoLegend bets 300, Hero ? No reads....
I would check/call the flop. You do have great equity, but not vs the range that he is going to bet 3bet shoving your c/r with (you are basically flipping). When he flats and you brick the turn, you are in a pretty wierd stack size situation as well. You have much better expectation flatting and leading 9/diamond turns.
hh 26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBsuino821030 BBHero1970 Effective Stacks: 34bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is BB suino82 raises to 60, Hero raises to 150, suino82 calls 90 Flop (300, 2 players) Hero bets 150, suino82 calls 150 Turn (600, 2 players) Hero ???std shove? Villain is think player, not great but not a random fish, not much read btw, he's 3bet pp and big aces, I don't know much about his 3bet calling range tho
I prefer a little smaller 3bet pre with your KQ/KJ/QJ/JJ+ to encourage calls from more dominated hands. maybe 60-135/140...I think that small difference impacts a lot of players calling ranges quite a bit at these particular stacks. 10-25bb deeper, I prefer the sizing you used with this range. My other 3bet sizing, for AJ+/77-TT/3bet bluffs, at this stack size would be 60-165ish - as i think it encourages less calls and more shove/fold which this range does waayyyyyy better against.Postflop, damn, this board MURDERS his 3bet calling range!!! Cbet a little bigger! I'd do 210ish and expect him to really almost never fold. This sets up better turn stacks for you also, if he calls the 210 pot would be 720 and remaining stacks would be 670...a lot better for you to just jam any turn. It's a wierd turn spot though bc I expect villain to virtually never have AX in his range, definitely QT a lot...would also expect on such a wet board for his flatting range to be relatively weak (<KX), so I'm thinking he won't have too many hands that can call a turn jam that you actually beat...I just think you are going to see QT, or a slowplayed 2 pair a ton more when called.Stacks are a little wierd for a bet/call, but I think it's best and allows him to make a lot more mistakes. I'd continue 240, jam almost all rivers when flatted. I'd def call a jam over the bet though, as I expect at these stack sizes that sizing will induce shoves from worse hands that would have otherwise folded to a turn jam (combo draws, hero plays, draws, etc). Plus, when you after betting the turn, you need such low equity to be able to call jam so its pretty damn easy.Interested to hear what Mers has to say about turn situation on this one.
ty Hokie, great reply. Ok let's see Mers and then I will tell you what Villain had ;)
I agree 100% with Hokie. Shrugging and bet/calling turn. AT/QT/A8 are in his range, but that's dwarfed by all the other hands to get value from. It's awkward, but bet/call it off.
Villain shows A8 :(
Even in that disaster scenario, you still have 6 outs. So it goes.
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