It should not matter much at all if there are just a few decimals in difference for some hands.  I'd also advise not using the charts directly, I would use them to give you an idea of the opponents you want to call and shove those ranges against, and then adapt based on how they are playing (example, the average opponent shoves much narrower than required to make the Nash BB ranges your best bet to use).

Thanks i was thinking the same, is sit and go wizard a good tool to find out good calling ranges against different pushing ranges? Or is there any other better software out there to help with this? Thanks anyone with the help

sngwiz should be good for that, yesBut I would suggest putting more of your time into studying 3bet shoving ranges, 3bet calling ranges, etc.  That stuff is more valuable (and the difference between guessing and knowing is much larger) to learn and spend your time on.

Ok cool, is sit and go wizard good software for that too? or is there something else, thank for fast response

what kind of programs you all use? I now don't use any program at all. Playing on the microstakes.

It's not too difficult to build your own 3bet shoving spreadsheet to do this.  If somebody promises to post instructions on how to do it (should take you 15 minutes), I'll add you to my google docs for my spreadsheet (I mostly used insane steve's 3bet shoving thread on 2p2 to make this, but also had Steve check the work after I completed it).

So you're now getting the same results (or you were?).  Last we checked our results differed slightly lol!

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i have not a clue how to work this, any chance i can pay you a small fee for your sheets, instead of getting sit and go wizard

I'm happy to share it for free, I just ask that whoever is the person to take me up on that just transcribes the formulas into a thread here on the site so that everybody can do it.  It simply just calculates the cEV (expected chips you gain or lose) for any given 3bet shove situation (so say you estimate they open 75% and call with half of those hands, which is 37.5% of total hands.. you plug that in, as well as the BB, the effective stack/smallest stack and your hand's equity against their calling range and it tells you how good or bad your shove is).Anyways, it shouldn't take more than 15 minutes of copying to paste it neatly onto this site, including back and forth time (and it's still probably a high estimate).If nobody does it by the time I'm home (late this week, out of town now) I'll go ahead and do it. 

Yeah like i said im trying to figure it out but i dont understand how to uses it, i dont really know how to uses poker stove so i wouldnt want to make a mess of it :(

I have made a 3 bet shoving spreadsheet based on insane steve's one. The only difference is that I have automated the process. There is 6 predefined ranges you can use to evaluate your hand. So you just need to enter your hand, stacks and stuffs, and then pick a range villain will call your shove with from a drop down box. Obv you can muck around and take it as an example and imput your own range if you want to. If anyone wants it it's here http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SK7ZT6ZPI would post an image of it but I have no idea how to.

Awesome, thanks!

Remember that these type of spreadsheets do not accurately take into account card removal, but they are still a decent guideline of expectation from 3bet shoving. Also, always compare expectation from shoving to the expectation from all other options, not just folding.

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I just came across genher's great spreadsheet, thanks for making this available. I have what is probably a dumb question.If we are using a predefined calling range for the villain, extremely tight to very loose, then shouldn't the % villain is raising from the button be irrelevant. eg,  villains calling range is not a % of his opening range. I'm pretty sure I'm missing something obvious here.