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punisherrr's picture
Spots where we commit ourselves with draw

Could any one what exactly situations/spots are good to ch/raise/call with draw ?I will give one example Preflop 25/50SB 2100Hero 900 with J9ss SB raise to 100, Hero callsflop Q 4 6 ssHero checks, SB bet 100 Villian is opening 60-70% of his button and cbet almost allways, also barells a lot. This is good spot to raise/call? We know about villain if he shove we are behind, but if he raise to 275 and he shove we need 29.1% EQ. This is good to commit myself and call? If yes, there is any calculation why this is EV+? Argument because we will pretty often won pot on flop (300), and if he shove we have odds to call its ok? I need calculation,strong agrument why we do this. ThanksCould anyone post more good spots to commit ourselves and call? No need single hand, if you put hand please argue why this is best play, and if you can calucate some it will be great.

RyPac13's picture
The fold equity is really the

The fold equity is really the added benefit you won't see with the pot odds vs equity comparison.  If he's cbetting a lot then check raising looks pretty good here.I'll comment some more about check raise sizing and other parts of this hand, but I'd like to see some others weigh in and participate.

punisherrr's picture
What exactly you mean?

What exactly you mean?

crstn's picture
I think in your situation you

I think in your situation you can raise bigger - the more I think of it you basically can play that transparent to push all in. He will fold everytime he has no piece of the flop, even knowing you probably have just the flush draw, and the times he calls you have outs.What Ryan means is that in your equity calculation you assume you both go all in every time this Hand plays out. But as you described Villain  has to fold a lot if he is a avid c-bettor

hotrock's picture
your over thinking this

your over thinking this situation a little, if you feel villian is getting out line with his raise pre then cbet flop you have to take a stand. (you said he is opening 70% an cbet almost always) you have to reriase in a spot like this otherwise you will get run over.just make it like 300-400 an call shove.

marrage's picture
you are 18 bb deep so giving

you are 18 bb deep so giving your reads I raise 300 /call and chip any turn if he flats,I dislike call flop in this situation