No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$100 + $2 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBdaria258540 BBHero460 Effective Stacks: 23bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is BB daria258 calls 10, Hero checks Flop (40, 2 players) Hero checks, daria258 bets 40, Hero raises to 100, daria258 calls 60 Turn (240, 2 players) Hero bets 120, daria258 calls 120 River (480, 2 players) Hero goes all-in 220, daria258 foldsFinal Pot: 700 Hero wins 700 ( won +240 ) daria258 lost -240 Ye I played it awful, the question is however how the big old Mersenneary plays and thinks about these sorts of situations?
God I still have a shitload of problems vs Loose players. I think I get this theory thing with only making money with my big hands and other than that I should just try to stay alive best way possible.But it feels like I'm either playing too tight or too loose, I rarely get the feeling that I just own a loose player.First and foremost I'm wondering how to play from the small blind vs the following type of players.Person A: He folds 30% of BB's calls 40% 3bets 30%. He only folds to 35% of cbets flatts most hands and CR's around 25% it's hard to get him to fold when you double barrel but sometimes he does.How exactly would you adjust at 20-25bb 15-20bb 10-16bb? ( some estimations of ranges would be great) Person B, stats from BB: he folds 23% flatts 57% 3bets 20% kinda aggro vs limps. Postflop he CRs 10% folds 45% flatts the rest and rarely folds to 2 barrels.Same thing how would you adjust at 20-25BB 15-20BB 10-16BB?Person C, stats from BB: he folds 30% calls 60% 3bets 10% vs limps he raises every 3rd hand. Postflop he fold 30% vs cbets CR's 32% and flatts the rest, folds to 2nd barrels around 50% of the time.Same thing how would you adjust at 20-25BB 15-20BB 10-16BB? Would really appreciate a deep discussion about this, must be something I have tottaly missunderstood or something, because I just can't beat these types of players.
Flat pre would be my standard as well with Q9o 15bb deep. I love betting turn and river in this situation, especially given that there isn't a missed flush draw for him to put you on. 180 looks good.I'm flatting 98o 11bb deep as standard, but folding 97o, I think. That one's close, though. Folding 96o. It's a decent board to lead flop if his c-betting % is low on these type of flops, but crai obviously fine absent that.Especially on an ace high board like this, I'm never folding in position without serious reads. Sometimes I float, sometimes I raise like you did. Your head does not need examining...yet.
I probably call turn as well with the T7, begrudgingly. Our 5 outs are good a decent amount of the time and we occasionally have the best hand. That should be enough in position against a half pot bet. Definitely a very strong line from him, though, but that does increase our implied odds (as long as he doesn't have AA!)I fold pre with the Q8o, but calling with Q9o, so no big deal. I'm check/raise/getting it in on this flop a lot against people who open a big frequency (enough to call Q8o pre..), c-bet wide, and will understand that you don't have much Ax in your range. There are people who I will just c/c here for sure, though. Again, given possible implied odds and chance of having the best hand, you have to call turn and fold river, but obviously not fun spots.
In those type of situations, the thing to hone in on is just how valid your fear of getting double barreled is. Think frequencies and how often your opponent is doing this, not just about how the spot sucks to get barreled in. In general, double barrels on an A842 board are going to be pretty strong (a lot of Ax). It's a really close decision if he bets bigger, there's a flush draw out there which gives him some non-air to be bluffing with, but not a lot, especially given this turn card.
Q5ss hand...hmm. I think I would usually just flat flop readless - there are a LOT of hands you really don't want to run into (better 5x, queen high/king high/ace high flush draws, and then obviously two pair/straight/set type hands. Then again, that flop sizing is unlikely for two pair/sets, and is a bet/fold sizing from a lot of people (or at the very least, not having vulnerable made hands that are strong enough to call a jam in the range). If I did raise, I'd probably make it bigger, because people will use this sizing with weaker pairs/ace high type hands that can call a small size.
97: Cool, I get to disagree strongly with something! I think you need to bet/call the turn. He can have a lot of two overcard type hands that are folding, and he can fold weaker 6x for sure (not that it matters what 6x's kicker is really, but anyway). I usually make it a little bigger on the flop (140) and jam turn.
Pretty close with the T6, and I'm torn between raising and flatting flop. I think it's pretty close, but would probably flat. I'm not a fan of your sizing if you raise, though - I'd make it bigger on both flop and turn on such a draw-heavy board. Bigger on flop allows you to jam turn which is going to be the best line from raising. Think of all the hands in position you'd be quite happy to call flop and turn against your line.
The biggest thing about a loose player:His frequencies are too loose. The ratio of good hands to bluff hands is out of whack, somewhere. Figure out where and attack that weakened range.Against player A, he's 3betting way too much, and while there's value to raising JTo stuff more often when your opponent is calling too wide (as he is), I think the extra 3bet% means that it's best to limp your middle range and have a very strong opening range - down to about 30% or so, even, and really take advantage of his 3betting range. How much you can limp depends on his frequencies going after those (and to what sizing) as well. His ratio is way out of whack in his 3betting range whcih means we need to take advantage with a tighter opening range, more full of hands that can correctly call a 3bet. You can also take advantage by 4bet jamming wider and raise/calling wider depending on his 3betting size.Against Player B. he's flatting way too much OOP. Again, we're getting big value out of our good hands, but we need to continue to raise our top 60-65%. Cut double barrels for bluff out of your range, and just openfold your bottom 35-40%, that usually relies on a decent bit of fold equity. I still think you should be c-betting a lot - the weaker hands your opponent calls pre, the more air he has on the flop, even if he does call loose.Against Person C, he's still flatting too wide OOP, which means there's just no way he can hit that many flops enough to be check/raising so much. Cut down your c-betting range for bluff (you can start 3-betting for bluff on the flop if he has a fold button) and really take advantage of that weak range by bet/3betting or bet/calling wider.These players are frustrating to play against and difficult psychologically, but you have to trust the math. They can't have it as often as it feels like they do. Playing a loose player who shows up with a lot of hands can be one of the most frustrating things in poker (I still hate playing a nit who keeps showing up with big hands in the BB 10bb deep even worse).
wow I actually think I have started to own loose players, atleast the bad ones :P. Limping seems to be the key for the most part especially lategame. Very intersting to hear how you adapt to diffrent player types and situations so let's continue in the same fashion. What ranges do you 3bet and flatt call from BB against a reg that opens 90%, 20-25bb?Same question but the reg opens 80%? A reg who opens 80% at 16-21bb? A reg who opens 65% and limps 10% 10-12bb and 13-15bb? How would you play your SB 20-25bb vs a reg that have a VPIP 51% 3b 30% and is very aggro vs limps? How would you play your SB vs a reg 15-20bb that has VPIP of 45% 3b 37%? Been involved in some regwars latetly and they actually don't play the same vs a 3b to t120 and t100 is it safe to assume that I should put my KQo KJo type of hands in my 3b t100 instead of having a t120 range? I also noticed that they give my 3b shove range 22-25bb alot of respect. Should I start to bluff shove alot of hands and if I do what type of hands would you recommend?Assuming that I play a standard reg that opens 70-80% and doesn't call shoves to light 22-25bb.
I struggled for a few days in answering these.The honest reason why is that I've never really thought of it in this way, e.g. the difference between 80% and 90% and exact 3bet bluff ranges. A lot of it is also just going and using software and plugging in ranges, which is something I can teach you how to do if you'd like."How would you play your SB 20-25bb vs a reg that have a VPIP 51% 3b 30% and is very aggro vs limps?"Raise your junk, limp stuff that can limp/call and if he's really aggro vs limps, then of course, it makes sense to throw in a lot of trapping hands as well."How would you play your SB vs a reg 15-20bb that has VPIP of 45% 3b 37%?Play 100% of hands, limping some middling stuff that can't raise call but plays very well postflop."Been involved in some regwars latetly and they actually don't play the same vs a 3b to t120 and t100 is it safe to assume that I should put my KQo KJo type of hands in my 3b t100 instead of having a t120 range? I also noticed that they give my 3b shove range 22-25bb alot of respect. Should I start to bluff shove alot of hands and if I do what type of hands would you recommend?"What do you mean, they don't play the same way? What's the 4bet jamming range like? Flatting range?The article on shoving vs a 70% minraiser 20bb deep should help a lot with your questions with regard to the last one. J4s type stuff can become really good to jam.
''The honest reason why is that I've never really thought of it in this way, e.g. the difference between 80% and 90% and exact 3bet bluff ranges. A lot of it is also just going and using software and plugging in ranges, which is something I can teach you how to do if you'd like.'' Well that's how I have learned this game, I look at the opponents stats then I figure out a good counter strat, mix in some basic understandment of how and why people may deviate from their standard play and profit.I use the free version of cardrunners EV calc and pokerstove to pluggin some stuff from time to time. If you know a better way then I'm all ears.Biggest problem is ofcourse that I hate doing stuff like that and I always procrastinate on it, but sure ofcourse I should do more of that stuff and also study way more than I do right know. Thing is that I have heard that you do alot of these calculations and know pretty much everything when it comes to endgame math. So if you tell me to flatt a certain range 22-25bb 3b t100 and 3b ai with certain hands I know you have great reasons for doing so and I'll figure out the rest for myself or ask if I don't understand why.I don't ask that you have to calculate this to an exact science just an approximation of what you would do in a similar situation would be more than enough. "How would you play your SB vs a reg 15-20bb that has VPIP of 45% 3b 37%?''''Play 100% of hands, limping some middling stuff that can't raise call but plays very well postflop.''Makes alot of sense only thing I was worried about is if I play 100% of hands he will catch on to that pretty quickly and make alot of adjustments. If I however fold some hands he might not realize that he is getting exploited. This all assumes that I'm playing multiple games vs him. When I think about it this is something that I struggle with alot in regwars, I often see some kind of big leak and I know how to hard counter it but doing so would almost certainly force him to change his strategy and I have to find some new weakness to attack. "Been involved in some regwars latetly and they actually don't play the same vs a 3b to t120 and t100 is it safe to assume that I should put my KQo KJo type of hands in my 3b t100 instead of having a t120 range? I also noticed that they give my 3b shove range 22-25bb alot of respect. Should I start to bluff shove alot of hands and if I do what type of hands would you recommend?"humm I was pretty tierd when I wrote that not really sure what I meant either. Some players calls a 3b to t100 way lighter and also 4b shoves way lighter than they do vs a 3b t120. I guess my real question is how I should adjust to that? My other question is if I should start to 3b allin with alot of stuff 22-25bb vs a opponent who never calls light ( obviously I should ), and I guess you are saying J4s and similair hands will do good. But if I start to shove those hands that I previously used as a 3b t100 bluff I guess I have to pick some new hands for my 3b t100 bluffing range right? :P
As for the 3betting stuff, check out propokertools shove calculator, that helps a lot. Another reason for me being hesitant in my answer is that I just don't know how many bluffs we should be throwing in and it's leaving out so many variables. I'd do completely different things against different 80% and 90% raisers and "readless, but with a 90% opening frequency" is a really difficult concept for me to get my head around, because it's impossible. We'll have other reads that are drastically influencing our decision. I'm sorry if this is an unsatisfying answer on this front - I can see how it would be. I can say that as opening frequency gets up high, the bottom of your flatting range and just below becomes very good for 3betting - a lot of the J3s, T4s, 86o type stuff.You can make 100% 90% if you want, there are debating schools of thought on that one, I usually fold a few buttons here and there against this type of opponent.So what are they shoving over t100? Are you talking about A2o stuff, or are they also jamming suited connectors and stuff that KJ actually beats?If he's very aggro against t100, there's no need to have any non-allin bluffs in your range at all.
I'd do completely different things against different 80% and 90% raisers and "readless, but with a 90% opening frequency" is a really difficult concept for me to get my head around, because it's impossible.Ok both the 80% raiser and the 90% raiser cbets a little bit over 70% and folds to cr's like 45% or something, they play fairly standard postflop not really sure what hands they ch back with but probably some showdown value and some air. So what are they shoving over t100? Are you talking about A2o stuff, or are they also jamming suited connectors and stuff that KJ actually beats?They usually call my 3b t100 light but only 4bets Ax, pairs and maybe some KQo but never suited connectors.Vs a 3b t120 they rarely call, basically only 4bet ai or folding.What would you put in your 3b t100 range vs this type of opponent assuming he's opening around 75%? ( talking about 20-25bb)
Ok so I have been starting to play some normal turbos and normal speed SNGs don't really know where to start my studying.Pretty broad question but if you could tell me some very basic ways to play these diffrent blinds levels, what would it be?60-75BB 50-60bb 40-50bb 30-40bb 25-30bb?What should I think about in terms of open frequency, flatting and 3beting?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$100 + $2 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero530 BBGyokty470 Effective Stacks: 16bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players)Hero is SB Hero calls 15, Gyokty checks Flop (60, 2 players) Gyokty checks, Hero bets 30, Gyokty raises to 120, Hero goes all-in 500, Gyokty goes all-in 320 Turn (1000, 2 players, 2 all-in)River (1000, 2 players, 2 all-in)Final Pot: 1000 Hero shows a pair of Tens Gyokty shows two pair, Fives and Twos Gyokty wins 940 ( won +470 ) Hero lost -470 So I have lost a couple of buyins with TPOK in limped pots 15-25bb and I always feel kinda lost.If we take this same hand and pretend that it's 25bb deep how would you play it from flop and forward?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$100 + $2 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBvadkerftp500 SBHero500 Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is SBHero raises to 40, vadkerftp calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) vadkerftp checks, Hero bets 40, vadkerftp raises to 90, Hero foldsFinal Pot: 210vadkerftp wins 210 ( won +80 ) Hero lost -80 3rd hand vs a unknown probably fishy player.Classic hand where I cbet A high and get CRs, I remember when I first started playing HUSNG I never gave anyone credit of having a hand in these spots I guess I do today atlest sometimes. What do you think about these spots?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$100 + $2 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero470 SBsimpledude530 Effective Stacks: 16bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players)Hero is BBsimpledude raises to 60, Hero calls 30 Flop (120, 2 players) Hero checks, simpledude bets 60, Hero calls 60 Turn (240, 2 players) Hero checks, simpledude bets 120, Hero calls 120 River (480, 2 players) Hero checks, simpledude goes all-in 290, Hero goes all-in 230 Final Pot: 1000 Hero shows simpledude shows two pair, Aces and Tens simpledude wins 1000 ( won +470 ) Hero lost -470 Let's pretend the river was a 5 or something would you call one, two or three barrels? Btw you are playing a reg at 100s not sure if he is capable of 3 barreling.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$200 + $3.50 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBcacacaz370 SBHero630 Effective Stacks: 19bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is SBHero raises to 40, cacacaz calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) cacacaz checks, Hero bets 40, cacacaz raises to 100, Hero calls 60 Turn (280, 2 players) cacacaz checks, Hero checks River (280, 2 players) cacacaz goes all-in 230, Hero calls 230 Final Pot: 740 cacacaz shows a flush, Queen high Hero shows cacacaz wins 740 ( won +370 ) Hero lost -370 He calls very wide preflop, doesn't CRs a ton but it happens.3bets like 14%.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$200 + $3.50 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBFuffyFuffy22450 SBHero550 Effective Stacks: 23bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is SBHero raises to 40, FuffyFuffy22 calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) FuffyFuffy22 checks, Hero checks Turn (80, 2 players) FuffyFuffy22 bets 40, Hero foldsFinal Pot: 120 FuffyFuffy22 wins 120 ( won +40 ) Hero lost -40 Is this a mandatory Cbet and if it is. When and why do you ch back with A high and when and why do you fold to the standard donkbet that comes after.
I played a bunch of games at normal turbos vs a reg that Cbets only 36% of the time, he seemed to ch back alot of air and some with marginal showdown value ( not sure about what he was doing with what ).How do I play vs people who loves to ch back most flops?
"Ok both the 80% raiser and the 90% raiser cbets a little bit over 70% and folds to cr's like 45% or something, they play fairly standard postflop not really sure what hands they ch back with but probably some showdown value and some air."The most important thing we're talking about here is how they react to 3bet bluffs. Do they 4bet jam light? How wide to they call? How fit or fold to they play in 3bet pots in position? That's going to tell you how much to 3bet bluff."They usually call my 3b t100 light but only 4bets Ax, pairs and maybe some KQo but never suited connectors. Vs a 3b t120 they rarely call, basically only 4bet ai or folding. What would you put in your 3b t100 range vs this type of opponent assuming he's opening around 75%? ( talking about 20-25bb)"If this is the case it's going to be best to put your bluff hands in the 120 range, it's worth investing the extra 20 to fold out a ton of his range. I'd also put KJ/KQ/KTs/QJs etc in the 100 range in this case. I don't think most people differntiate as much between t100 and t120 so that's why I'd usually make it 120 there.
"Ok so I have been starting to play some normal turbos and normal speed SNGs don't really know where to start my studying. Pretty broad question but if you could tell me some very basic ways to play these diffrent blinds levels, what would it be? 60-75BB 50-60bb 40-50bb 30-40bb 25-30bb? What should I think about in terms of open frequency, flatting and 3beting?"I don't think your really should adjust your opening range that much from 30-75bb except for the normal adjustments you make based on tendencies. There's more room for opponents to 3bet/fold large %ages so you have to be very aware of how to adjust once you see your opponent is doing that (standard stuff, tightening up opening range, 4betting wider, etc).One general thing you need to be more aware of is a plan for the hand, especially OOP when deciding when to check/raise or not. For example, it's generally a bad idea to check/raise top pair on a board with draws if you're planning on folding to further aggression, so think about that kind of stuff.Hands like K-rag go down in value as you get deeper.Really though, a lot of the concepts are the same. You're still making similar adjustments against different opponent types. You'll need to learn a lot about playing 3bet pots out of position now that you can't just bet/call or bet/fold. Also more plans for turn play in position. Really though I think the best teaching of this is just playing hands and posting when you get unsure.
T9s hand: I'd flat flop if we were 25bb deep. Get it in over bets on non-club turns.KT hand: Never a great spot. I think 25bb deep, especially given that this flop hits A2/A3/A4/A5 so much so that those hands will very often raise, that we can just fold until given reads otherwise that he's contesting a lot.Simpledude I actually know a bit about and think his ranges are often too value-oriented, especially with this turn size. I'm folding turn. Check/raising flop and getting it in would be standard on this board with a wide opening range.
KQ: Just jamming flop with this little behind. There's merit to checking to allow him to jam turn with his total air, but clearly his flush draws play a lot better against us when we flat, as well as whatever random pairs he may have,
I'm fine with not c-betting Ax on such a wet board, especially given that we only have one over to bottom pair. I would c-bet 963 with a suit, though. I think we can just fold to the donk until he shows he's donkbetting with everything, not just the pairs and draws (I think it's correct to bet with 100% of hands from his position).
"I played a bunch of games at normal turbos vs a reg that Cbets only 36% of the time, he seemed to ch back alot of air and some with marginal showdown value ( not sure about what he was doing with what ).How do I play vs people who loves to ch back most flops?"Never check/raise light (obv). One adjustment you can make is overbet on the turn with a ton of hands against this opponent, but you can also just make a smaller bet with a lot of your range just to fold out his air. It also depends on his turn betting range once he checks back. If he goes for a lot of delayed c-bets, you can check/raise a lot of turns and barrel river and fold him off a lot of his range.You should also be donking a lot more flops for value.
How do u play vs a person who 3bets 30% and flatts 35% from the BB at 30-38bb?When you are playing a reg you haven't played before and he has 3bet 3/4 hands how would you adjust, would you start to 4bet light, tighten up preflop or just assume he has been getting some hands hands. ( playing 75bb deep) It's a wierd dynamic cause I kinda assume that he doesn't have the balls to bluff 3bet a 4th time in a row but he might know that so that's why he would do it. :PYou ra 3bb first hand 75bb deep your opponent who is an aggresive reg 3bets pot what hands would you flatt?what hands do you flatt 75bb deep vs a 3bb raise and what do you 3bet vs a reg that you assumes opens wide like 70%+.
Been playing some STs at Merge how do you play from the BB 25-30bb, do you flatt kinda with the same ranges as 25bb?What hands would you 3b shove 30bb deep assuming you are playing a competent reg who opens around 70%?What about hands like KQo,KJo do you 3b 2.5x and even fold to a shove sometimes at 30bb or is it still the usual 3b 3x and call a shove 30bb deep?
"How do u play vs a person who 3bets 30% and flatts 35% from the BB at 30-38bb?"If they are aggressive vs limps, raise about 50%, limp 15% most stuff that can limp/call but not raise/call a 3bet, openfold the rest. If they aren't aggressive vs limps you can limp and stab a lot more. Your raising range will also depend on 3bet size, etc."When you are playing a reg you haven't played before and he has 3bet 3/4 hands how would you adjust, would you start to 4bet light, tighten up preflop or just assume he has been getting some hands hands. ( playing 75bb deep) It's a wierd dynamic cause I kinda assume that he doesn't have the balls to bluff 3bet a 4th time in a row but he might know that so that's why he would do it. :P"So it's a Bayesian thing, obviously both are possible, but the more someone 3bets early the more likely they are to 3bet light in general. I would already start to adjust but not overly so.
"You ra 3bb first hand 75bb deep your opponent who is an aggresive reg 3bets pot what hands would you flatt?"The borderlines depend on what you mean by aggressive (it would be silly to give you an exact range), but 97s, KTo, QJo, etc are all calls. 95s, K8o, Q9o, etc tend to be folds. "what hands do you flatt 75bb deep vs a 3bb raise and what do you 3bet vs a reg that you assumes opens wide like 70%+."You can 3bet a lot of J5s/96o stuff along with KJo+ KTs+ QJs ATs+ AJo+ 88+. Hands like J9o, T8o, Q8o, K8o, 98o will be calls, J7o, T6o, Q6o, 96o will be fold or 3bet type hands.
"Been playing some STs at Merge how do you play from the BB 25-30bb, do you flatt kinda with the same ranges as 25bb?"toBasically, yeah. "What hands would you 3b shove 30bb deep assuming you are playing a competent reg who opens around 70%?"Just small pairs for the most part, some Ax suited hands may be best to jam. "What about hands like KQo,KJo do you 3b 2.5x and even fold to a shove sometimes at 30bb or is it still the usual 3b 3x and call a shove 30bb deep?"You can 2.5x/fold those hands vs most.
So my plan was to post a ton of hands now last second, but to be quite honest it was pretty damn hard to find any intersting hands. Most of the time I can analyse it myself which is means that I have started to learn something. =) But it's always intersting to get your deeper analysis so I'll post some just to squeez out a little bit more from this program. You are playing a reg 20bb deep from the button. You minra with Qh4d he calls and the flop comes QJ9 with two spades, he checks to you. What's your plan for this hand?As usual a opponent dependent question but let's try it, you got JTs on the BB and button op shoves 12bb deep, do you generally fold/call and what makes you lean towards a call / fold when your information is limited? You limp J6o 11bb and your op ch behind. Flop comes J93 you bet 1bb he calls, turn brings a duece he ch you bet 2bb he reraise allin and you got 7bb left. 15bb deep you got A5o in BB your op raise 3x who's generally pretty tight pre, have been 3xing before but sometimes 2xing. 16bb deep you got 88 on the button you minra and get called flop comes J52 rainbow you bet half pot and get Cr's 2.5x. Your op is a fish who calls with to many hands preflop he hasen't been cr's to much but does it from time to time.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$200 + $3.50 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBLeRhaqs470 SBHero530 Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is SBHero raises to 40, LeRhaqs calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) LeRhaqs checks, Hero bets 40, LeRhaqs raises to 85, Hero raises to 160Final Pot: 325So this guy is kind of a reg and has been check raising me a decent bit, what do you think about this?He's kinda tight preflop flatts like 25% 3b 19%.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$200 + $3.50 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero355 BBpecosnin645 Effective Stacks: 12bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players)Hero is SBHero raises to 60, pecosnin calls 30 Flop (120, 2 players) pecosnin checks, Hero bets 60, pecosnin calls 60 Turn (240, 2 players) pecosnin checks Final Pot: 240 Is this a standard shove? Playing a fish who likes to call preflop.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$350 + $5 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBticadix500 SBHero500 Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is SBHero raises to 40, ticadix calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) ticadix checks, Hero bets 40, ticadix raises to 140 Final Pot: 260Now he's bet sizing kinda tells me that he's never folding but lets pretend he cr's t100-t120 first hand in a ST how do you think about these kind of spots?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$100 + $2 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero480 SBtruplayer1520 Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is BB truplayer1 calls 10, Hero raises to 60, truplayer1 calls 40 Flop (120, 2 players) Hero bets 60, truplayer1 calls 60 Turn (240, 2 players) Final Pot: 240 So what's your thoughts about this spot?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$200 + $3.50 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero550 BBjellejajelle450 Effective Stacks: 15bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players)Hero is SBHero raises to 60, jellejajelle calls 30 Flop (120, 2 players) jellejajelle bets 120, Hero calls 120 Turn (360, 2 players) jellejajelle goes all-in 270 Final Pot: 630A fsh who calls alot preflop has been donking before, what would you say his range might be here?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$100 + $2 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero550 BBottmar_MG450 Effective Stacks: 15bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players)Hero is SB Hero calls 15, ottmar_MG checks Flop (60, 2 players) ottmar_MG bets 30, Hero raises to 90 Final Pot: 180 So i decided to limp for some reason, he donks out half pot and I smell weakness. What's your thoughts about reraising directly vs flatting?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$100 + $2 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero510 BBffbrussels490 Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is SBHero raises to 40, ffbrussels calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) ffbrussels bets 80, Hero calls 80 Turn (240, 2 players) ffbrussels checks, Hero checks River (240, 2 players) ffbrussels bets 240, Hero folds Final Pot: 480 ffbrussels wins 480 ( won +120 ) Hero lost -120 First time he donks, don't have alot of info seems like a standard semi tight guy preflop.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$100 + $2 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBmarwleva500 SBHero500 Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is SBHero raises to 40, marwleva calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) marwleva bets 60, Hero folds Final Pot: 140 marwleva wins 140 ( won +40 ) Hero lost -40 Kinda standard player and he donks sometimes, I just figure I'm beat feels a little bit weak to just fold though.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$100 + $2 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero500 SBmarwleva500 Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is BBmarwleva raises to 40, Hero calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, marwleva bets 60 Final Pot: 140 So what's your plan for this hand, he's sizing kinda scares me but he has a 100% cbet based on (7 times) minra like 65% preflop.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$100 + $2 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero570 SBjguillen88430 Effective Stacks: 22bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)Hero is BBjguillen88 raises to 40, Hero calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, jguillen88 checks Turn (80, 2 players) Hero checks, jguillen88 checks River (80, 2 players) Hero bets 50, jguillen88 raises to 120Final Pot: 250Yep should have bet the turn, however on the river should I just shove and expect to get called by alot of worse hands and I guess I can't be to afriad of ATo? Also say I would bet turn and he calls, should I bet the river as well assuming it's a blank?
"You are playing a reg 20bb deep from the button. You minra with Qh4d he calls and the flop comes QJ9 with two spades, he checks to you. What's your plan for this hand?"Readless, I c-bet/call. With some reads, I c-bet/fold. With some different reads, I cbh and then call/call. With some different reads, I cbh and then call/fold (different boards obv matter here too). I think you can reason through the reasons for those lines, but I'd c-bet/call readless, yes. It is close, and a fun hand you can do a few different things with given different frequencies.
"As usual a opponent dependent question but let's try it, you got JTs on the BB and button op shoves 12bb deep, do you generally fold/call and what makes you lean towards a call / fold when your information is limited?"Folding against a random, calling against a reg. Regs will have much more defined ranges, always minraise/calling better Kx/Qx. Fish are more likely to openjam those hands.
"You limp J6o 11bb and your op ch behind. Flop comes J93 you bet 1bb he calls, turn brings a duece he ch you bet 2bb he reraise allin and you got 7bb left."Rainbow? God, not fun. It's quite close and thus doesn't matter too much, especially considering it won't happen often.
"15bb deep you got A5o in BB your op raise 3x who's generally pretty tight pre, have been 3xing before but sometimes 2xing."A jam until we can establish the 3x has few air hands. This description makes it sounds like 3x has been primary/about even.
"16bb deep you got 88 on the button you minra and get called flop comes J52 rainbow you bet half pot and get Cr's 2.5x. Your op is a fish who calls with to many hands preflop he hasen't been cr's to much but does it from time to time."Yeah, you're picking out some good ugly situations. Depends on exactly what you mean from "time to time" and what we've seen shown down so far. Definitely close with no clear better play.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$100 + $2 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBdaria258540 BBHero460 Effective Stacks: 23bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB daria258 calls 10, Hero checks Flop (40, 2 players) Hero checks, daria258 bets 40, Hero raises to 100, daria258 calls 60 Turn (240, 2 players) Hero bets 120, daria258 calls 120 River (480, 2 players) Hero goes all-in 220, daria258 folds Final Pot: 700 Hero wins 700 ( won +240 ) daria258 lost -240 Ye I played it awful, the question is however how the big old Mersenneary plays and thinks about these sorts of situations?
God I still have a shitload of problems vs Loose players. I think I get this theory thing with only making money with my big hands and other than that I should just try to stay alive best way possible.But it feels like I'm either playing too tight or too loose, I rarely get the feeling that I just own a loose player.First and foremost I'm wondering how to play from the small blind vs the following type of players.Person A: He folds 30% of BB's calls 40% 3bets 30%. He only folds to 35% of cbets flatts most hands and CR's around 25% it's hard to get him to fold when you double barrel but sometimes he does.How exactly would you adjust at 20-25bb 15-20bb 10-16bb? ( some estimations of ranges would be great) Person B, stats from BB: he folds 23% flatts 57% 3bets 20% kinda aggro vs limps. Postflop he CRs 10% folds 45% flatts the rest and rarely folds to 2 barrels.Same thing how would you adjust at 20-25BB 15-20BB 10-16BB?Person C, stats from BB: he folds 30% calls 60% 3bets 10% vs limps he raises every 3rd hand. Postflop he fold 30% vs cbets CR's 32% and flatts the rest, folds to 2nd barrels around 50% of the time.Same thing how would you adjust at 20-25BB 15-20BB 10-16BB? Would really appreciate a deep discussion about this, must be something I have tottaly missunderstood or something, because I just can't beat these types of players.
Flat pre would be my standard as well with Q9o 15bb deep. I love betting turn and river in this situation, especially given that there isn't a missed flush draw for him to put you on. 180 looks good.I'm flatting 98o 11bb deep as standard, but folding 97o, I think. That one's close, though. Folding 96o. It's a decent board to lead flop if his c-betting % is low on these type of flops, but crai obviously fine absent that.Especially on an ace high board like this, I'm never folding in position without serious reads. Sometimes I float, sometimes I raise like you did. Your head does not need examining...yet.
I probably call turn as well with the T7, begrudgingly. Our 5 outs are good a decent amount of the time and we occasionally have the best hand. That should be enough in position against a half pot bet. Definitely a very strong line from him, though, but that does increase our implied odds (as long as he doesn't have AA!)I fold pre with the Q8o, but calling with Q9o, so no big deal. I'm check/raise/getting it in on this flop a lot against people who open a big frequency (enough to call Q8o pre..), c-bet wide, and will understand that you don't have much Ax in your range. There are people who I will just c/c here for sure, though. Again, given possible implied odds and chance of having the best hand, you have to call turn and fold river, but obviously not fun spots.
In those type of situations, the thing to hone in on is just how valid your fear of getting double barreled is. Think frequencies and how often your opponent is doing this, not just about how the spot sucks to get barreled in. In general, double barrels on an A842 board are going to be pretty strong (a lot of Ax). It's a really close decision if he bets bigger, there's a flush draw out there which gives him some non-air to be bluffing with, but not a lot, especially given this turn card.
Q5ss hand...hmm. I think I would usually just flat flop readless - there are a LOT of hands you really don't want to run into (better 5x, queen high/king high/ace high flush draws, and then obviously two pair/straight/set type hands. Then again, that flop sizing is unlikely for two pair/sets, and is a bet/fold sizing from a lot of people (or at the very least, not having vulnerable made hands that are strong enough to call a jam in the range). If I did raise, I'd probably make it bigger, because people will use this sizing with weaker pairs/ace high type hands that can call a small size.
97: Cool, I get to disagree strongly with something! I think you need to bet/call the turn. He can have a lot of two overcard type hands that are folding, and he can fold weaker 6x for sure (not that it matters what 6x's kicker is really, but anyway). I usually make it a little bigger on the flop (140) and jam turn.
Pretty close with the T6, and I'm torn between raising and flatting flop. I think it's pretty close, but would probably flat. I'm not a fan of your sizing if you raise, though - I'd make it bigger on both flop and turn on such a draw-heavy board. Bigger on flop allows you to jam turn which is going to be the best line from raising. Think of all the hands in position you'd be quite happy to call flop and turn against your line.
The biggest thing about a loose player:His frequencies are too loose. The ratio of good hands to bluff hands is out of whack, somewhere. Figure out where and attack that weakened range.Against player A, he's 3betting way too much, and while there's value to raising JTo stuff more often when your opponent is calling too wide (as he is), I think the extra 3bet% means that it's best to limp your middle range and have a very strong opening range - down to about 30% or so, even, and really take advantage of his 3betting range. How much you can limp depends on his frequencies going after those (and to what sizing) as well. His ratio is way out of whack in his 3betting range whcih means we need to take advantage with a tighter opening range, more full of hands that can correctly call a 3bet. You can also take advantage by 4bet jamming wider and raise/calling wider depending on his 3betting size.Against Player B. he's flatting way too much OOP. Again, we're getting big value out of our good hands, but we need to continue to raise our top 60-65%. Cut double barrels for bluff out of your range, and just openfold your bottom 35-40%, that usually relies on a decent bit of fold equity. I still think you should be c-betting a lot - the weaker hands your opponent calls pre, the more air he has on the flop, even if he does call loose.Against Person C, he's still flatting too wide OOP, which means there's just no way he can hit that many flops enough to be check/raising so much. Cut down your c-betting range for bluff (you can start 3-betting for bluff on the flop if he has a fold button) and really take advantage of that weak range by bet/3betting or bet/calling wider.These players are frustrating to play against and difficult psychologically, but you have to trust the math. They can't have it as often as it feels like they do. Playing a loose player who shows up with a lot of hands can be one of the most frustrating things in poker (I still hate playing a nit who keeps showing up with big hands in the BB 10bb deep even worse).
wow I actually think I have started to own loose players, atleast the bad ones :P. Limping seems to be the key for the most part especially lategame. Very intersting to hear how you adapt to diffrent player types and situations so let's continue in the same fashion. What ranges do you 3bet and flatt call from BB against a reg that opens 90%, 20-25bb?Same question but the reg opens 80%? A reg who opens 80% at 16-21bb? A reg who opens 65% and limps 10% 10-12bb and 13-15bb? How would you play your SB 20-25bb vs a reg that have a VPIP 51% 3b 30% and is very aggro vs limps? How would you play your SB vs a reg 15-20bb that has VPIP of 45% 3b 37%? Been involved in some regwars latetly and they actually don't play the same vs a 3b to t120 and t100 is it safe to assume that I should put my KQo KJo type of hands in my 3b t100 instead of having a t120 range? I also noticed that they give my 3b shove range 22-25bb alot of respect. Should I start to bluff shove alot of hands and if I do what type of hands would you recommend?Assuming that I play a standard reg that opens 70-80% and doesn't call shoves to light 22-25bb.
I struggled for a few days in answering these.The honest reason why is that I've never really thought of it in this way, e.g. the difference between 80% and 90% and exact 3bet bluff ranges. A lot of it is also just going and using software and plugging in ranges, which is something I can teach you how to do if you'd like."How would you play your SB 20-25bb vs a reg that have a VPIP 51% 3b 30% and is very aggro vs limps?"Raise your junk, limp stuff that can limp/call and if he's really aggro vs limps, then of course, it makes sense to throw in a lot of trapping hands as well."How would you play your SB vs a reg 15-20bb that has VPIP of 45% 3b 37%?Play 100% of hands, limping some middling stuff that can't raise call but plays very well postflop."Been involved in some regwars latetly and they actually don't play the same vs a 3b to t120 and t100 is it safe to assume that I should put my KQo KJo type of hands in my 3b t100 instead of having a t120 range? I also noticed that they give my 3b shove range 22-25bb alot of respect. Should I start to bluff shove alot of hands and if I do what type of hands would you recommend?"What do you mean, they don't play the same way? What's the 4bet jamming range like? Flatting range?The article on shoving vs a 70% minraiser 20bb deep should help a lot with your questions with regard to the last one. J4s type stuff can become really good to jam.
''The honest reason why is that I've never really thought of it in this way, e.g. the difference between 80% and 90% and exact 3bet bluff ranges. A lot of it is also just going and using software and plugging in ranges, which is something I can teach you how to do if you'd like.'' Well that's how I have learned this game, I look at the opponents stats then I figure out a good counter strat, mix in some basic understandment of how and why people may deviate from their standard play and profit.I use the free version of cardrunners EV calc and pokerstove to pluggin some stuff from time to time. If you know a better way then I'm all ears.Biggest problem is ofcourse that I hate doing stuff like that and I always procrastinate on it, but sure ofcourse I should do more of that stuff and also study way more than I do right know. Thing is that I have heard that you do alot of these calculations and know pretty much everything when it comes to endgame math. So if you tell me to flatt a certain range 22-25bb 3b t100 and 3b ai with certain hands I know you have great reasons for doing so and I'll figure out the rest for myself or ask if I don't understand why.I don't ask that you have to calculate this to an exact science just an approximation of what you would do in a similar situation would be more than enough. "How would you play your SB vs a reg 15-20bb that has VPIP of 45% 3b 37%?''''Play 100% of hands, limping some middling stuff that can't raise call but plays very well postflop.''Makes alot of sense only thing I was worried about is if I play 100% of hands he will catch on to that pretty quickly and make alot of adjustments. If I however fold some hands he might not realize that he is getting exploited. This all assumes that I'm playing multiple games vs him. When I think about it this is something that I struggle with alot in regwars, I often see some kind of big leak and I know how to hard counter it but doing so would almost certainly force him to change his strategy and I have to find some new weakness to attack. "Been involved in some regwars latetly and they actually don't play the same vs a 3b to t120 and t100 is it safe to assume that I should put my KQo KJo type of hands in my 3b t100 instead of having a t120 range? I also noticed that they give my 3b shove range 22-25bb alot of respect. Should I start to bluff shove alot of hands and if I do what type of hands would you recommend?"humm I was pretty tierd when I wrote that not really sure what I meant either. Some players calls a 3b to t100 way lighter and also 4b shoves way lighter than they do vs a 3b t120. I guess my real question is how I should adjust to that? My other question is if I should start to 3b allin with alot of stuff 22-25bb vs a opponent who never calls light ( obviously I should ), and I guess you are saying J4s and similair hands will do good. But if I start to shove those hands that I previously used as a 3b t100 bluff I guess I have to pick some new hands for my 3b t100 bluffing range right? :P
As for the 3betting stuff, check out propokertools shove calculator, that helps a lot. Another reason for me being hesitant in my answer is that I just don't know how many bluffs we should be throwing in and it's leaving out so many variables. I'd do completely different things against different 80% and 90% raisers and "readless, but with a 90% opening frequency" is a really difficult concept for me to get my head around, because it's impossible. We'll have other reads that are drastically influencing our decision. I'm sorry if this is an unsatisfying answer on this front - I can see how it would be. I can say that as opening frequency gets up high, the bottom of your flatting range and just below becomes very good for 3betting - a lot of the J3s, T4s, 86o type stuff.You can make 100% 90% if you want, there are debating schools of thought on that one, I usually fold a few buttons here and there against this type of opponent.So what are they shoving over t100? Are you talking about A2o stuff, or are they also jamming suited connectors and stuff that KJ actually beats?If he's very aggro against t100, there's no need to have any non-allin bluffs in your range at all.
I'd do completely different things against different 80% and 90% raisers and "readless, but with a 90% opening frequency" is a really difficult concept for me to get my head around, because it's impossible.Ok both the 80% raiser and the 90% raiser cbets a little bit over 70% and folds to cr's like 45% or something, they play fairly standard postflop not really sure what hands they ch back with but probably some showdown value and some air. So what are they shoving over t100? Are you talking about A2o stuff, or are they also jamming suited connectors and stuff that KJ actually beats?They usually call my 3b t100 light but only 4bets Ax, pairs and maybe some KQo but never suited connectors.Vs a 3b t120 they rarely call, basically only 4bet ai or folding.What would you put in your 3b t100 range vs this type of opponent assuming he's opening around 75%? ( talking about 20-25bb)
Ok so I have been starting to play some normal turbos and normal speed SNGs don't really know where to start my studying.Pretty broad question but if you could tell me some very basic ways to play these diffrent blinds levels, what would it be?60-75BB 50-60bb 40-50bb 30-40bb 25-30bb?What should I think about in terms of open frequency, flatting and 3beting?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$100 + $2 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero530 BBGyokty470 Effective Stacks: 16bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero calls 15, Gyokty checks Flop (60, 2 players) Gyokty checks, Hero bets 30, Gyokty raises to 120, Hero goes all-in 500, Gyokty goes all-in 320 Turn (1000, 2 players, 2 all-in) River (1000, 2 players, 2 all-in) Final Pot: 1000 Hero shows a pair of Tens Gyokty shows two pair, Fives and Twos Gyokty wins 940 ( won +470 ) Hero lost -470 So I have lost a couple of buyins with TPOK in limped pots 15-25bb and I always feel kinda lost.If we take this same hand and pretend that it's 25bb deep how would you play it from flop and forward?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$100 + $2 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBvadkerftp500 SBHero500 Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, vadkerftp calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) vadkerftp checks, Hero bets 40, vadkerftp raises to 90, Hero folds Final Pot: 210 vadkerftp wins 210 ( won +80 ) Hero lost -80 3rd hand vs a unknown probably fishy player.Classic hand where I cbet A high and get CRs, I remember when I first started playing HUSNG I never gave anyone credit of having a hand in these spots I guess I do today atlest sometimes. What do you think about these spots?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$100 + $2 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero470 SBsimpledude530 Effective Stacks: 16bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is BB simpledude raises to 60, Hero calls 30 Flop (120, 2 players) Hero checks, simpledude bets 60, Hero calls 60 Turn (240, 2 players) Hero checks, simpledude bets 120, Hero calls 120 River (480, 2 players) Hero checks, simpledude goes all-in 290, Hero goes all-in 230 Final Pot: 1000 Hero shows simpledude shows two pair, Aces and Tens simpledude wins 1000 ( won +470 ) Hero lost -470 Let's pretend the river was a 5 or something would you call one, two or three barrels? Btw you are playing a reg at 100s not sure if he is capable of 3 barreling.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$200 + $3.50 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBcacacaz370 SBHero630 Effective Stacks: 19bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, cacacaz calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) cacacaz checks, Hero bets 40, cacacaz raises to 100, Hero calls 60 Turn (280, 2 players) cacacaz checks, Hero checks River (280, 2 players) cacacaz goes all-in 230, Hero calls 230 Final Pot: 740 cacacaz shows a flush, Queen high Hero shows cacacaz wins 740 ( won +370 ) Hero lost -370 He calls very wide preflop, doesn't CRs a ton but it happens.3bets like 14%.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$200 + $3.50 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBFuffyFuffy22450 SBHero550 Effective Stacks: 23bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, FuffyFuffy22 calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) FuffyFuffy22 checks, Hero checks Turn (80, 2 players) FuffyFuffy22 bets 40, Hero folds Final Pot: 120 FuffyFuffy22 wins 120 ( won +40 ) Hero lost -40 Is this a mandatory Cbet and if it is. When and why do you ch back with A high and when and why do you fold to the standard donkbet that comes after.
I played a bunch of games at normal turbos vs a reg that Cbets only 36% of the time, he seemed to ch back alot of air and some with marginal showdown value ( not sure about what he was doing with what ).How do I play vs people who loves to ch back most flops?
"Ok both the 80% raiser and the 90% raiser cbets a little bit over 70% and folds to cr's like 45% or something, they play fairly standard postflop not really sure what hands they ch back with but probably some showdown value and some air."The most important thing we're talking about here is how they react to 3bet bluffs. Do they 4bet jam light? How wide to they call? How fit or fold to they play in 3bet pots in position? That's going to tell you how much to 3bet bluff."They usually call my 3b t100 light but only 4bets Ax, pairs and maybe some KQo but never suited connectors. Vs a 3b t120 they rarely call, basically only 4bet ai or folding. What would you put in your 3b t100 range vs this type of opponent assuming he's opening around 75%? ( talking about 20-25bb)"If this is the case it's going to be best to put your bluff hands in the 120 range, it's worth investing the extra 20 to fold out a ton of his range. I'd also put KJ/KQ/KTs/QJs etc in the 100 range in this case. I don't think most people differntiate as much between t100 and t120 so that's why I'd usually make it 120 there.
"Ok so I have been starting to play some normal turbos and normal speed SNGs don't really know where to start my studying. Pretty broad question but if you could tell me some very basic ways to play these diffrent blinds levels, what would it be? 60-75BB 50-60bb 40-50bb 30-40bb 25-30bb? What should I think about in terms of open frequency, flatting and 3beting?"I don't think your really should adjust your opening range that much from 30-75bb except for the normal adjustments you make based on tendencies. There's more room for opponents to 3bet/fold large %ages so you have to be very aware of how to adjust once you see your opponent is doing that (standard stuff, tightening up opening range, 4betting wider, etc).One general thing you need to be more aware of is a plan for the hand, especially OOP when deciding when to check/raise or not. For example, it's generally a bad idea to check/raise top pair on a board with draws if you're planning on folding to further aggression, so think about that kind of stuff.Hands like K-rag go down in value as you get deeper.Really though, a lot of the concepts are the same. You're still making similar adjustments against different opponent types. You'll need to learn a lot about playing 3bet pots out of position now that you can't just bet/call or bet/fold. Also more plans for turn play in position. Really though I think the best teaching of this is just playing hands and posting when you get unsure.
T9s hand: I'd flat flop if we were 25bb deep. Get it in over bets on non-club turns.KT hand: Never a great spot. I think 25bb deep, especially given that this flop hits A2/A3/A4/A5 so much so that those hands will very often raise, that we can just fold until given reads otherwise that he's contesting a lot.Simpledude I actually know a bit about and think his ranges are often too value-oriented, especially with this turn size. I'm folding turn. Check/raising flop and getting it in would be standard on this board with a wide opening range.
KQ: Just jamming flop with this little behind. There's merit to checking to allow him to jam turn with his total air, but clearly his flush draws play a lot better against us when we flat, as well as whatever random pairs he may have,
I'm fine with not c-betting Ax on such a wet board, especially given that we only have one over to bottom pair. I would c-bet 963 with a suit, though. I think we can just fold to the donk until he shows he's donkbetting with everything, not just the pairs and draws (I think it's correct to bet with 100% of hands from his position).
"I played a bunch of games at normal turbos vs a reg that Cbets only 36% of the time, he seemed to ch back alot of air and some with marginal showdown value ( not sure about what he was doing with what ).How do I play vs people who loves to ch back most flops?"Never check/raise light (obv). One adjustment you can make is overbet on the turn with a ton of hands against this opponent, but you can also just make a smaller bet with a lot of your range just to fold out his air. It also depends on his turn betting range once he checks back. If he goes for a lot of delayed c-bets, you can check/raise a lot of turns and barrel river and fold him off a lot of his range.You should also be donking a lot more flops for value.
How do u play vs a person who 3bets 30% and flatts 35% from the BB at 30-38bb?When you are playing a reg you haven't played before and he has 3bet 3/4 hands how would you adjust, would you start to 4bet light, tighten up preflop or just assume he has been getting some hands hands. ( playing 75bb deep) It's a wierd dynamic cause I kinda assume that he doesn't have the balls to bluff 3bet a 4th time in a row but he might know that so that's why he would do it. :PYou ra 3bb first hand 75bb deep your opponent who is an aggresive reg 3bets pot what hands would you flatt?what hands do you flatt 75bb deep vs a 3bb raise and what do you 3bet vs a reg that you assumes opens wide like 70%+.
Been playing some STs at Merge how do you play from the BB 25-30bb, do you flatt kinda with the same ranges as 25bb?What hands would you 3b shove 30bb deep assuming you are playing a competent reg who opens around 70%?What about hands like KQo,KJo do you 3b 2.5x and even fold to a shove sometimes at 30bb or is it still the usual 3b 3x and call a shove 30bb deep?
"How do u play vs a person who 3bets 30% and flatts 35% from the BB at 30-38bb?"If they are aggressive vs limps, raise about 50%, limp 15% most stuff that can limp/call but not raise/call a 3bet, openfold the rest. If they aren't aggressive vs limps you can limp and stab a lot more. Your raising range will also depend on 3bet size, etc."When you are playing a reg you haven't played before and he has 3bet 3/4 hands how would you adjust, would you start to 4bet light, tighten up preflop or just assume he has been getting some hands hands. ( playing 75bb deep) It's a wierd dynamic cause I kinda assume that he doesn't have the balls to bluff 3bet a 4th time in a row but he might know that so that's why he would do it. :P"So it's a Bayesian thing, obviously both are possible, but the more someone 3bets early the more likely they are to 3bet light in general. I would already start to adjust but not overly so.
"You ra 3bb first hand 75bb deep your opponent who is an aggresive reg 3bets pot what hands would you flatt?"The borderlines depend on what you mean by aggressive (it would be silly to give you an exact range), but 97s, KTo, QJo, etc are all calls. 95s, K8o, Q9o, etc tend to be folds. "what hands do you flatt 75bb deep vs a 3bb raise and what do you 3bet vs a reg that you assumes opens wide like 70%+."You can 3bet a lot of J5s/96o stuff along with KJo+ KTs+ QJs ATs+ AJo+ 88+. Hands like J9o, T8o, Q8o, K8o, 98o will be calls, J7o, T6o, Q6o, 96o will be fold or 3bet type hands.
"Been playing some STs at Merge how do you play from the BB 25-30bb, do you flatt kinda with the same ranges as 25bb?"toBasically, yeah. "What hands would you 3b shove 30bb deep assuming you are playing a competent reg who opens around 70%?"Just small pairs for the most part, some Ax suited hands may be best to jam. "What about hands like KQo,KJo do you 3b 2.5x and even fold to a shove sometimes at 30bb or is it still the usual 3b 3x and call a shove 30bb deep?"You can 2.5x/fold those hands vs most.
So my plan was to post a ton of hands now last second, but to be quite honest it was pretty damn hard to find any intersting hands. Most of the time I can analyse it myself which is means that I have started to learn something. =) But it's always intersting to get your deeper analysis so I'll post some just to squeez out a little bit more from this program. You are playing a reg 20bb deep from the button. You minra with Qh4d he calls and the flop comes QJ9 with two spades, he checks to you. What's your plan for this hand?As usual a opponent dependent question but let's try it, you got JTs on the BB and button op shoves 12bb deep, do you generally fold/call and what makes you lean towards a call / fold when your information is limited? You limp J6o 11bb and your op ch behind. Flop comes J93 you bet 1bb he calls, turn brings a duece he ch you bet 2bb he reraise allin and you got 7bb left. 15bb deep you got A5o in BB your op raise 3x who's generally pretty tight pre, have been 3xing before but sometimes 2xing. 16bb deep you got 88 on the button you minra and get called flop comes J52 rainbow you bet half pot and get Cr's 2.5x. Your op is a fish who calls with to many hands preflop he hasen't been cr's to much but does it from time to time.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$100 + $2 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero360 BBOschi411640 Effective Stacks: 18bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, Oschi411 calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) Oschi411 checks, Hero bets 40, Oschi411 calls 40 Turn (160, 2 players) Oschi411 checks, Hero checks River (160, 2 players) Oschi411 bets 160, Hero folds Final Pot: 320 Oschi411 wins 320 ( won +80 ) Hero lost -80
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$500 + $6 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBGaiALLIN480 BBHero520 Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB GaiALLIN raises to 40, Hero calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, GaiALLIN bets 50, Hero raises to 150, GaiALLIN calls 100 Turn (380, 2 players) Hero goes all-in 330, GaiALLIN goes all-in 290 River (1000, 2 players, 2 all-in) Final Pot: 1000 GaiALLIN shows two pair, Queens and Fives Hero shows a pair of Fives GaiALLIN wins 960 ( won +480 ) Hero lost -480
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$200 + $3.50 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBLeRhaqs470 SBHero530 Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, LeRhaqs calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) LeRhaqs checks, Hero bets 40, LeRhaqs raises to 85, Hero raises to 160 Final Pot: 325So this guy is kind of a reg and has been check raising me a decent bit, what do you think about this?He's kinda tight preflop flatts like 25% 3b 19%.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$200 + $3.50 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero355 BBpecosnin645 Effective Stacks: 12bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, pecosnin calls 30 Flop (120, 2 players) pecosnin checks, Hero bets 60, pecosnin calls 60 Turn (240, 2 players) pecosnin checks Final Pot: 240 Is this a standard shove? Playing a fish who likes to call preflop.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$350 + $5 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBticadix500 SBHero500 Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, ticadix calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) ticadix checks, Hero bets 40, ticadix raises to 140 Final Pot: 260Now he's bet sizing kinda tells me that he's never folding but lets pretend he cr's t100-t120 first hand in a ST how do you think about these kind of spots?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$100 + $2 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero480 SBtruplayer1520 Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB truplayer1 calls 10, Hero raises to 60, truplayer1 calls 40 Flop (120, 2 players) Hero bets 60, truplayer1 calls 60 Turn (240, 2 players) Final Pot: 240 So what's your thoughts about this spot?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$200 + $3.50 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero550 BBjellejajelle450 Effective Stacks: 15bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, jellejajelle calls 30 Flop (120, 2 players) jellejajelle bets 120, Hero calls 120 Turn (360, 2 players) jellejajelle goes all-in 270 Final Pot: 630A fsh who calls alot preflop has been donking before, what would you say his range might be here?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$100 + $2 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero550 BBottmar_MG450 Effective Stacks: 15bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero calls 15, ottmar_MG checks Flop (60, 2 players) ottmar_MG bets 30, Hero raises to 90 Final Pot: 180 So i decided to limp for some reason, he donks out half pot and I smell weakness. What's your thoughts about reraising directly vs flatting?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$100 + $2 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero510 BBffbrussels490 Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, ffbrussels calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) ffbrussels bets 80, Hero calls 80 Turn (240, 2 players) ffbrussels checks, Hero checks River (240, 2 players) ffbrussels bets 240, Hero folds Final Pot: 480 ffbrussels wins 480 ( won +120 ) Hero lost -120 First time he donks, don't have alot of info seems like a standard semi tight guy preflop.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$100 + $2 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBmarwleva500 SBHero500 Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, marwleva calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) marwleva bets 60, Hero folds Final Pot: 140 marwleva wins 140 ( won +40 ) Hero lost -40 Kinda standard player and he donks sometimes, I just figure I'm beat feels a little bit weak to just fold though.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$100 + $2 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero500 SBmarwleva500 Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB marwleva raises to 40, Hero calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, marwleva bets 60 Final Pot: 140 So what's your plan for this hand, he's sizing kinda scares me but he has a 100% cbet based on (7 times) minra like 65% preflop.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$100 + $2 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero570 SBjguillen88430 Effective Stacks: 22bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB jguillen88 raises to 40, Hero calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, jguillen88 checks Turn (80, 2 players) Hero checks, jguillen88 checks River (80, 2 players) Hero bets 50, jguillen88 raises to 120 Final Pot: 250Yep should have bet the turn, however on the river should I just shove and expect to get called by alot of worse hands and I guess I can't be to afriad of ATo? Also say I would bet turn and he calls, should I bet the river as well assuming it's a blank?
"You are playing a reg 20bb deep from the button. You minra with Qh4d he calls and the flop comes QJ9 with two spades, he checks to you. What's your plan for this hand?"Readless, I c-bet/call. With some reads, I c-bet/fold. With some different reads, I cbh and then call/call. With some different reads, I cbh and then call/fold (different boards obv matter here too). I think you can reason through the reasons for those lines, but I'd c-bet/call readless, yes. It is close, and a fun hand you can do a few different things with given different frequencies.
"As usual a opponent dependent question but let's try it, you got JTs on the BB and button op shoves 12bb deep, do you generally fold/call and what makes you lean towards a call / fold when your information is limited?"Folding against a random, calling against a reg. Regs will have much more defined ranges, always minraise/calling better Kx/Qx. Fish are more likely to openjam those hands.
"You limp J6o 11bb and your op ch behind. Flop comes J93 you bet 1bb he calls, turn brings a duece he ch you bet 2bb he reraise allin and you got 7bb left."Rainbow? God, not fun. It's quite close and thus doesn't matter too much, especially considering it won't happen often.
"15bb deep you got A5o in BB your op raise 3x who's generally pretty tight pre, have been 3xing before but sometimes 2xing."A jam until we can establish the 3x has few air hands. This description makes it sounds like 3x has been primary/about even.
"16bb deep you got 88 on the button you minra and get called flop comes J52 rainbow you bet half pot and get Cr's 2.5x. Your op is a fish who calls with to many hands preflop he hasen't been cr's to much but does it from time to time."Yeah, you're picking out some good ugly situations. Depends on exactly what you mean from "time to time" and what we've seen shown down so far. Definitely close with no clear better play.
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