Hello,at the 20$s and 35$s ST there are a lot of players with limping more than 50% and raising 25% percent from the button 20bb-25bb deep. I need some help to find the best strategy against the limps. If the opponent is weak preflop and I can easily win a lot of pots by stabbing out on flop or turn, I only raise something like AT+, KT+, 88+But if the opponent fights more postflop I think I should be more aggressive preflop. Which range should I use for a raise after a limp 20-25bb deep?- Are hands like JTs better because they flop well?- Or should I raise hands like Ax with small kicker because they are ahead but don’t play well against his limping range. Is a 3x raise in this case big enough? (I saw one of Mers video, where he shoves, I think, A7 in the second hand after a limp, but this was very opponent dependent)- Or should I always avoid building big pots OOP and should only raise premiums?- Medium pocket pairs 20-25bb deep: Should I 3x or better raise more than this?- Small pocket pairs (22-44) 25bb deep? Is a jam readless +EV?Last question is about the threshold between raising allin and 3x after a limp. I think my threshold is about 20bb except big pairs, which I 2x-3x also with <15bb and small pairs, which I shove >20bb. What do you think?
Some quick thoughts (will return to this):JTs is a must-raise against someone who is limping 50%/raising 25%. J8s will also be a raise.I think jamming 22-44 25bb deep over a frequent limper, especially if you haven't been going crazy against them yet in the match, is definitely the best way to play those hands. If they "trapped" you, first of all, oh well, any pair vs pair <25bb deep is a cooler no matter how it's played, and second of all, their trapping % shouldn't be that high if they are limping as frequently as you suggest.I 3.5x with the 66-TT type stuff.I wouldn't raise a hand like A5o vs a limp even if they are limping 50% without further reads about limp/calling range. It really sucks when they limp/call because they have 45-50% equity against you, in position, when you won't get very much value when you hit top pair (for practical purposes, your ace is basically face up in the mind of most players when they don't have one). That's very different than a when you have a hand like QTs.
thats because u can fire Axx Kxx (and get folds enought to be profitable) obv Qxx Txx (for value), and paired boards like 552 779 (as a bluff with lot of FE, and sometimes live outs) right? but what about when u flop fd lets say QTss on 78Kss or 764ss do u cbet/call the shove or c/r most of the time readless? and if turn bricks u keep firing? obv talking as a "default" play
bet/call is usually best. Getting flatted sucks, it depends on the exact texture/turn card/opponent really, hard to come up with a default play for a situation like that. But I definitely prefer bet/call to crai in general with that typye of hand/stack depth/type of board on the flop. It just sucks too much when you let them check behind with tons of equity and you have a difficult time realizing your own equity on the turn if you don't hit.
when we get flatted sucks but if for example turn pairs do you think is a good card to bluff bc thinking villain doesnt expect us to bluff that card for example? or do you prefer betting high cards or cards that get the board more wet?
Against most villains, if the turn improves the strength of their range versus the strength of your perceived flop range, I wouldn't get into the levelling business, I would continue to bluff less often.
"I wouldn't raise a hand like A5o vs a limp even if they are limping 50% without further reads about limp/calling range."Isn't pushing the best option against limps with Ax? What hands do we raise against a limp? Do we want to raise the good K/Q/Jx hands and SC, since we might make him fold the worse hand or do we want to raise worse connectors, low 1 gappers that we have blockers against and dont mind a fold? How much do we raise a limp to at the different levels, 10/20, 15/30? Do you have different size for premium hands and non premium hands?How does the range change at the different levels? I find the 20/40 level and 25/50 hard to play at. I usually push hands that dont flop good, K3, J5, check with KT, J8, 86 hands, 2x premium hands and 4x KJ,QJ+. Any comments on that? Dont really know how to adopt this to different opponents though.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/185/heads-up-sng/beginners-questions-t...I have noticed this thread at 2+2 about dealing with limpers. You guys may be interested.
Just wanted to ask why the hell is the beginners question thread locked, then realized it's the old one ...
Other standard situation in limped pots:We check back, hit top pair, but with a very weak kicker. Lead out or check/call ? Or even check/raise ?And if we previously already stabbed a lot at flops in limped pot and the guy folded a ton - doesn't this mean if he's raising us now, then we're in big trouble ? Or is it more likely that he simply got frustrated by us stabbing so much ?
How do we play different Ax against a limp? Which do you push/raise/check behind?