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shawnty's picture
questions and issues with hypers

I played some hyper turbo hu sngs and really liked em. I'm playing the $1.5 limit. what brm is okay for these? And also I felt like there's not as much room for making reads and plays as in the reg speed. Does this mean that these are easier to multitable than the reg speeds?And I had an issue with HEM. I played about 13 hypers and I think I won 8 of them, but when I look at my graph in HEM it says -100% roi :s Any ideas why?

HoppSwiiz1's picture
Hello, hypers are much harder

Hello,hypers are much harder in multitabling. One tell can be the difference between +3% ROI and -1% ROI.A lot of mid stack racks (about $60) make this error and end up with 5000 hypers just break even.

shawnty's picture
Okay thanks:) then I'll just

Okay thanks:) then I'll just keep 1 tabling. My english isn't that good.. did you mean that $60 is an okay br for $1.5 hypers? 40 bi sounds kind of low imo. I think i'm gonna give em a try for 60 bi. Is that br okay o is chance of busto superhigh with 60 bi?what kind of roi do you think might be sustainable at the $1.5-$15 limits assuming I play decent but not as good as cog and rypac? I know it differs a lot but is 3% possible without being a super genius? :P

RyPac13's picture
3% should be possible. Cog

3% should be possible.Cog and I haven't been winning, so look to somebody better ;)In all seriousness though, the lower levels should be softer on average, so even without being an experienced or developed player, 2-3% should be possible if you take it seriously, do not tilt and really work to improve.60 buyins looks fine to start out.  Always consider that you could lose 50-100 buyins, and if you'll even let it go that far (for example, many guys will quit if they lose 20-40 buyins, so they don't really need to have 60 buyins in their account because they can't possibly lose even 50, they will quit first!).

shawnty's picture
How come you guys haven.r

How come you guys haven't been winning? If you're not winning, I don't stand a chance lol 

nekrogovner's picture
There is some maneuvering

There is some maneuvering room ofc. Be focused and you will spot timing tells and similar. Very hard to multitable until you developed very good skillset. I tried twotabling today but thats my limit, and I still lose lots of spots I could play better. 3-4 tables almost impossible for me. You can often notice pretty awful multitablers for their slow play, because they cant click fast enough on all 4 tables. They probably just wait for second level of blinds to execute their jamfest while staring at some chart like nash or chubukov.Take something between 50 and 100 buyins to play, whatever makes you feel more comfortable if you end up in nasty downswing.3% is solid.About your HEM problem. It often happens if your tournaments automatically close or something like that. Its simple to fix. Go to Data View. Now click on every tourney where under Finish column says 1 (it means you finished first), right click on it and click: Edit Tourney Winnings. And there you write 2.88, because that much you win in 1.5$ tourney. The rest is eaten by rake.

shawnty's picture
Thanks nekrogovner. Your HEM

Thanks nekrogovner. Your HEM tip worked like a charm :)

nekrogovner's picture
I have 3.3% ROI over 4400

I have 3.3% ROI over 4400 games across 1.5$ - 15$ buyin levels. I also find myself very non-disciplined and poorly educated in HU craftsmanship, and I also assume I have tilted away around 2% of my overall ROI on 7$ buyin level. So there's a spark of hope for you.

U-Boot's picture
Nekrogovner, how many games

Nekrogovner, how many games did you play at 1.5$ level? Is rake beatable on those stakes? Regards,U.

nekrogovner's picture
Only about 800, with ROI

Only about 800, with ROI 8.6%. These games are ridiculously soft, and I doubt rake should be any problem. It seems that random players just come here to click buttons and let off some steam by spewing around randomly. :D

shawnty's picture
Yeah these should be

Yeah these should be beatable. It's not to uncommon to see this kind of stuff :P  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$1.44+$0.06 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBLuckyAleh340  BBHero660  Effective Stacks: 17bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB LuckyAleh raises to 60, Hero goes all-in 660, LuckyAleh goes all-in 280 Flop (1000, 2 players, 2 all-in) Turn (1000, 2 players, 2 all-in) River (1000, 2 players, 2 all-in) Final Pot: 1000 LuckyAleh shows a pair of Fives Hero shows a pair of Kings Hero wins 1000 ( won +340 ) LuckyAleh lost -340