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longjohn's picture
enough info to shove over the top?

No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1420  BTNJugularis1580  Effective Stacks: 47bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is BB Jugularis raises to 60, Hero raises to 150, Jugularis raises to 450, Hero folds Final Pot: 600 Jugularis wins 600 ( won +150 ) Hero lost -150I don't have that much info on this guy I have seen him check down the nut flush from the flop to the river letting me bet into him, but then he is check raising a lot ( would you guess this means a weakish c/r range?)anyway the hand before this one he 3bet me all in when we were both 50bb deep, so I 3bet here thinking I would call if he shoved over the top, but when he made this size bet I think it looks strong? is seeing him shove in the hand before enough to shove it over the top of this bet? and if he had just shoved over the top do you think seeing him shove two hands in a row is enough to call here? he hadn't been 3betting much before this and hadn't 4 bet yet.

Nossrep's picture
I fold.

Either you are way behind or a small favorite. Maybe thats wrong to think like that???

Il Monk's picture
Why 3bet? You are willing to

Why 3bet? You are willing to call a shove but did you think before you 3bet him what you are gonnan do on a small 4bet? When you call preflop you can play the flop much easier.

longjohn's picture
Yeah I would normally just call here

Yeah I would normally just call here I only 3bet because of the 3bet shove before this hand that seemed very out f character for this villain, so I thought it was likely he was tilting, so I thought there was a good chance that he would just shove over this 3bet, but I'm taking it that you don't think one 3bet shove is enough to think all of that?No I didn't think about a small 4bet I think it looks very strong but don't know after he just 3bet shoved, but I suppose if he was tilting in the last hand and bluffing then he would have just shoved here too.The more I think about it the worse it seems because like you said nossrep even if he did shove I'd probably still only be a small favorite.

Barewire's picture
I tend to call pre with hands

I tend to call pre with hands like this because of how poorly they play postflop, but the only time I do 3bet is against someone who's shown that they will 4bet too often, since our hand plays very well preflop against a wide range. That said, you seem to only have one hand to back up the idea that he might 4bet light, so this seems like an adjustment made too hastily. As played I think you're probably right to fold here, I wouldn't expect this size to be weak after he's already jammed once successfully.

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