No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$6.85+$0.15 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero600 BBNonoBaires400 Effective Stacks: 20bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, NonoBaires raises to 120, Hero calls 80 Flop (240, 2 players) NonoBaires bets 80, Hero goes all-in 480, NonoBaires folds Final Pot: 400 Hero wins 800 ( won +200 ) NonoBaires lost -200 Second hand vs an unknown. Too spewy what do you think?
Sorry I answered too quickly and wrongly.I did not pay attention to the open-ended draw here. Well..a bit risky to shove as you may only be called by made hands that crush you at this moment considering Villain'sbet on the flop. And a blocker Q might very well be in Villain's range But shove is still ok to me in these ultra fast low stack HUs... FE + some outs.Edited.
PokerPuker
HU Hyper Tilter
I don't like it on these boards, especially at lower stakes. The board smacks villain's range pretty hard, I think most of the time you're called by better hands. However, the pot is pretty big due to the 3bet pre...
I think we're committed, as in if he would shove we would have to call.Effective stack is 400 to start with, so on the flop effective stack is 280. If he would shove we'd risk 280 to win 520 which makes for 35% equity needed. So I don't mind shoving at all and if we've got any foldequity GREAT. Given how terrible the flop is and how small he bet you could probably just peel for odds and fold turn unless you improve or he underbets again. I most certainly wouldn't fold. People (especially at these stakes) just don't have reasonable ranges all the time (given that he betfolded this I wouldn't expect villain to have one) and I would think that a herofold.What I find much more interesting is if we should call the 3bet at all, we're getting 30% of our chips(effective stack) in pre against an unknown range and then have to stack off with any pair draw and given that we've got only a potsized bet left I wouldn't count on fold equity. We don't do well against any range, think 33%. Even if he 3bets top 25% or so we're only 37% or so. Furthermore I would be very worried about the nuts, I think for most people 3bets that shallow are polar, 99+ AJ+ or so, stuff they want to get action with or something airy, since they could just 3bship everything else. I think for most people its polar and most people don't 3bet non-value hands that shallow. So I think it's either the nuts or close to or something like top 8%-20% at best, which we do bad against. I think we're too shallow to call this 3bet with about anything, I think we should play shove/fold to this and call EXTREMELY narrow (maybe QJs reasoning that we don't want to ship in his range but flop tp/draw all day long)Whatever villain had I'm pretty sure he misplayed it horribly, especially readless and we got lucky. btw I think we've got a nice hand for limping at 15-22bb or so.
Am I the only one who would have folded this to the 3 bet preflop?