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iddqdmann's picture
jam 84s 3BB mathematically?

Hey,How can you mathematiclly explain correctness of jamming 84s from SB 3BB deep. For example you re on holding 84s (blinds 25/50) Villain stack is 140 he's in for 50 and got 90 behind and villain is flatting our jam 100%. Would it differ with 84o?

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It is widely common to use

It is widely common to use programs like as ICMIZER or SNG Wizard to do those kind of calculations. The question is: is shoveing more profitabel on average then folding (surrendering the SB).Considering ICMIZER, in this situation:Hero (860 chips) SB: 25Villain (140 chips) BB: 50shoveing 84o is the worse option than folding if you are certain that he calls 100%. It is +EV as long as he calls with <75%shoveing 84s is a so called unexploitable shove: there is no calling range that can win against it. What is an unexploitable shove? Of course you lose value if he calls with AA, 88, etc. pp but the more top heavy his calling range the more you profit from the fold equity. With bad hands (like 84s etc. pp) your gain is usually bigger the more he folds. Meaning if he only calls with AA (0.5%): your gain is the biggest because he will fold incredibly often. If he calls your 84s with AA only you gain (Chip EV like) ~75 chips. If he calls with a 100% range you gain 4.5 Chips on average.

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