like ur thought process in both of the hands Greenbast.. didnt like the call in hand 2...
ur calling 1135 chips, to pick up 520 chips in the pot,
1135/1655=68%
u have to be correct 68%/ or more of the times on the call for the call to be +EV,
if villain is competent, he should knw tht board is bad board to bluff at, since double-tone FD both missed on river, and he's repping a narrow range with his river jam... levelling involved
I think this river is a pretty tricky spot vs this villan. In the video I do say that when looking back at this hand I perfered a fold > call. Vs a more standard villan I think its not very close and a fairly easy fold. Even with this opponent having a very high river aggression I think this is a spot that he is likely to have some SDV so its going to be unlikely for him to turn his hand into a bluff. I think very few players at this level are turning hands with showdown value into bluffs, and he is far more likely to hero call his weak holdings in this spot vs raise these hands. One of the reasons I chose this hand for this video was that I was not really happy with how I played the river. I think my river bet is good but I leveled myself into a call here (although I don't think a call is really terrible vs this specific villan). Also, I don't put that much faith into the river aggression statistic. It certainly is worth looking at an considering but there is just not going to be a very good sample of hands that we get into a spots like this with. Id be more inclined to look at this statistic when facing a river bet after we check back the turn in position as this spot will generally have a bigger sample size.
A7 is the bottom of ur value range, since its essentially one-pair handrange....
im not being results oriented, but i just think u can find more +EV spots, as opposed to this spot, where ur bet/calling with TPNK type hand....
The river aggression was certainly something in game which lead me towards a call. I do think however this player is not quite aggressive enough to be bluffing here. I think he may be raising thin with a wider range. In this spot I dont expect him to be raising thin and he has tons of hands with showdown value, so in the end I do not think my call is correct as I mentioned in the video.
Greenbast-
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1st Hand) So, say this guy was a fish but maintained the TurnCB stat of only 31%, let's say a player at the $5 or $10 level: would you lead the turn with A2, c/c/ or c/f? If he's a fish and checks behind, are you leading most rivers? What if this villain (as is) flats your turn c/r? Are you leading out on most rivers in that case? If not, which rivers are you giving up on?
2nd Hand) Assuming villain (again, as is) does cbet the flop and you c/r, what if he just flats? He's capping his range there to pretty much Qx or a strong T , e.g. AT, KT, etc., because we expect him to shove any draws, strong queens (AQ, KQ) and better, right? (Or do you think he would cbet a naked ten on this flop, so as to get value from draws, or is he afraid of being c/r'd by those draws? He's definitely cbetting Qx, yeah?) Are we barrelling any turn in the case that he flats your flop c/r? If so, and he calls the turn lead, are we shutting down most rivers assuming we don't get there?
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1) Vs a $5-$10 player I would just be trying to get my Ax hands here to showdown. At lower levels people are more likely to check down with no showdown value. I would consider calling a small turn bet vs opponents I felt could potentially be betting lots of draws. I will be continueing my bluff on quite a few rivers + if I hit top pair with the Ace I can certainly be betting for value. I wouldnt be firing at any board pairing rivers.2) I would be barreling here and setting up a stacksize for a big river bet (or shove). Since this is a flop that I will almost never be fully bluffing on I think if I check the turn here I become easy to play against. Its unlikely I would be checking the turn here with any of my made hands, so by checking my opponent can play near perfect. I would be shoving this river most of the time as well, the chance to fold Tx and I am certain some nittier players can fold Q no kicker here. Hope you do well on Lock! I have never played there myself but at the low stakes action is pretty good on almost any site.
A7s river decision is awesome :) loved how you explained it. pretty sick :))
like ur thought process in both of the hands Greenbast.. didnt like the call in hand 2...
ur calling 1135 chips, to pick up 520 chips in the pot,
1135/1655=68%
u have to be correct 68%/ or more of the times on the call for the call to be +EV,
if villain is competent, he should knw tht board is bad board to bluff at, since double-tone FD both missed on river, and he's repping a narrow range with his river jam... levelling involved
I think this river is a pretty tricky spot vs this villan. In the video I do say that when looking back at this hand I perfered a fold > call. Vs a more standard villan I think its not very close and a fairly easy fold. Even with this opponent having a very high river aggression I think this is a spot that he is likely to have some SDV so its going to be unlikely for him to turn his hand into a bluff. I think very few players at this level are turning hands with showdown value into bluffs, and he is far more likely to hero call his weak holdings in this spot vs raise these hands. One of the reasons I chose this hand for this video was that I was not really happy with how I played the river. I think my river bet is good but I leveled myself into a call here (although I don't think a call is really terrible vs this specific villan). Also, I don't put that much faith into the river aggression statistic. It certainly is worth looking at an considering but there is just not going to be a very good sample of hands that we get into a spots like this with. Id be more inclined to look at this statistic when facing a river bet after we check back the turn in position as this spot will generally have a bigger sample size.
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A7 is the bottom of ur value range, since its essentially one-pair handrange....
im not being results oriented, but i just think u can find more +EV spots, as opposed to this spot, where ur bet/calling with TPNK type hand....
Shouldn't it be easy bet/call assuming his River aggression is very high?
where did u get the assumption that his aggression is very high at river??
...from the HUD, AF is 10 on the R.
The river aggression was certainly something in game which lead me towards a call. I do think however this player is not quite aggressive enough to be bluffing here. I think he may be raising thin with a wider range. In this spot I dont expect him to be raising thin and he has tons of hands with showdown value, so in the end I do not think my call is correct as I mentioned in the video.
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Greenbast-
Hello, and can I say thank you for the great quality of Turbo SNG videos!
1st Hand) So, say this guy was a fish but maintained the TurnCB stat of only 31%, let's say a player at the $5 or $10 level: would you lead the turn with A2, c/c/ or c/f? If he's a fish and checks behind, are you leading most rivers? What if this villain (as is) flats your turn c/r? Are you leading out on most rivers in that case? If not, which rivers are you giving up on?
2nd Hand) Assuming villain (again, as is) does cbet the flop and you c/r, what if he just flats? He's capping his range there to pretty much Qx or a strong T , e.g. AT, KT, etc., because we expect him to shove any draws, strong queens (AQ, KQ) and better, right? (Or do you think he would cbet a naked ten on this flop, so as to get value from draws, or is he afraid of being c/r'd by those draws? He's definitely cbetting Qx, yeah?) Are we barrelling any turn in the case that he flats your flop c/r? If so, and he calls the turn lead, are we shutting down most rivers assuming we don't get there?
I'm sorry for all the hypthoses, but I'm about to deposit $200 on LOCK and take my first shot at HUSNG at the $5 level and want to be VERY prepared given that I'll start with only 40 BI. I've played quite a bit of live limit (2-4 through 4-8) and have done quite well, but this site (which I stumbled upon by all but an accident, I might add) has really grabbed my interest. All of your Turbo videos and those of SmallPears are the ones I watch over and over again. Thank you so much for the free videos. I'll be purchasing the standard video pack for $50 as soon as my tax refund arrives! Can't wait.
Regards,
James
1) Vs a $5-$10 player I would just be trying to get my Ax hands here to showdown. At lower levels people are more likely to check down with no showdown value. I would consider calling a small turn bet vs opponents I felt could potentially be betting lots of draws. I will be continueing my bluff on quite a few rivers + if I hit top pair with the Ace I can certainly be betting for value. I wouldnt be firing at any board pairing rivers.2) I would be barreling here and setting up a stacksize for a big river bet (or shove). Since this is a flop that I will almost never be fully bluffing on I think if I check the turn here I become easy to play against. Its unlikely I would be checking the turn here with any of my made hands, so by checking my opponent can play near perfect. I would be shoving this river most of the time as well, the chance to fold Tx and I am certain some nittier players can fold Q no kicker here. Hope you do well on Lock! I have never played there myself but at the low stakes action is pretty good on almost any site.
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