Hello,
I need your help.
What ranges do you prefer 3 bet shoving to a minraise 8-10 bb deep? I know it depends a lot how wide opponent minraises, but in general is it better to 3b shove a tighter range against the population tendency? I often use the nash chart to decide whether 3bet shove or not, if it is a call to a jam I 3bet shove, but I hate when my K2-K6, 9J 8Q get called by better hands, but according to nash they are calls to a jam and I feel like I HAVE to 3b shove them, but I often get a called by better hands, and I feel this range is too loose.Should I fold these hands and 3bet shove a tighter range? Is flatting these hands an option?
You definitely don't have to shove nash.
The population will typically not be min raising a nash push range and so you would be making significant errors by shoving a nash call range.
Many villains actually reduce their min-raising range to a pure value raise-call range @ low effective stacks.
This reduces your fold equity and narrows the range of hands you can profitably 3b jam.
3b jamming hands like K6-K2 would be value owing yourself vs these type of villains.
Regarding designing readless ranges vs the "population" => not sure how you can get to 8-10BB without some idea of what villain is doing?
That said, the approach would be the same as exploiting an individual villain: you should estimate what the population min raises at these stack depths then design design a 3b jamming range to profitably exploit it.
And vs the assumed min raise range, yes I would expect some hands will have higher expectation flatting.
Start by answering these questions:
What is the population's raise-call range? => you can easily calculate each hand's equity (e) vs this range, call the raise-call range [RC]
What is the population's raise-fold range? => this will allow you to estimate your fold equity, call the raise-fold range [RF]
EV(3b jam) = f * P + ( 2 * S *e - J)
where
f = frequency with which villain folds ~ [RF] / ( [RC] + [RF] )
* Note probability of villain holding [RF] & [RC] should be adjusted for card removal effects
P = size of pot before jamming = 0.5 + 1.0 + 1.5 = 3.0 BB
S = effective stack size
J = size of jam = (S - 1.0)
Which hands have better expectation flatting than 3b jamming?
Good question => something I've been racking my brain over => would love to hear people's thoughts regarding this?