No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players
$6.85+$0.15
Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter
| SB | Hero | 500 | |
| BB | gymbud21 | 500 |
Effective Stacks: 25bb
Blinds 10/20
Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)
Hero is SB
Hero raises to 40, gymbud21 raises to 100, Hero calls 60
Flop (200, 2 players)
gymbud21 bets 80, Hero calls 80
Turn (360, 2 players)
gymbud21 goes all-in 320, Hero folds
Final Pot: 360
gymbud21 wins 680 ( won +180 )
Hero lost -180
after 6hands with this villain, first 3bet preflop, 67% flat
when he 3bets for the first time I assume his range to be mainly consisted of some stronger Ax hands, some higher pocket pairs (maybe 44+) and also KQo, KJs type of hands. So I flat and want to see how he continues.
a) would you flat him here as well? or do you think jamming/folding can be better here?
On flop I floated as the board was not connecting much with the range I assigned him and wanted to attack the turn if he did not continue the aggression, but after he quickly jammed, I gave up on the hand as I beat nothing from the assigned range
b) Would you float on flop or do something else? After the hand I thought maybe a raise/fold here would be better as most non-pocket pair hands from the range would give up
c) any thoughts about how I ranged him? my biggest leaks for HUs still lay in correct ranging of my opponent, so anything on that would be helpful for me :)
Hello Matoduri,
I dont think the ranges you set up for an unkown villain is all correct. I definitely dont think he would NAI (Non all in) 3-bet 44+ more likely 99-TT+. Besides that you arent putting any bluffs in villains NAI 3-bet range? I would put in some 69s, 57s, 64s, T7s, 56o etc. combos. (In general a lot of the lowest quality hands from his calling range preflop)
Preflop: I think calling and folding is pretty close, shoving isnt an option imo. You are very dominated by a lot of his range (PPs, KJ, KQ, AQ etc.). I would rather flat TJ or 9T as you are less dominated and dominate some of his NAI 3-bet bluff range.
Postflop: I disagree with you saying the flop dosent hit his range very well. The broadways combos miss, but the flop hits his NAI 3-bet bluff range very well plus all his PPs will go for value.
I really dont like your call here. u got close to 0 equity and dont rep very well just flatting. (would you flat 78 here etc.?) You showdown value are almost never good enough, and when it is; you often dont come to showdown. If you hit your 6 outs villain still got a lot of combos beating you. I dont think e.g. 8T or some of the other hands he could have from time to time that you are beating are giving up on a lot of turns.
I definitely fold the flop here.
I hope i answered al your questions.
If any one disagree with me, ill be very happy to hear where in my though process i am wrong :) .
//MBAdolfsen
Hey
Thanks for the reply
just to respond some of the questions you asked, or clarify my thought process here
about bluffs: I don't think much of the population playing $7 hypers is bluffing very often here as they play pretty straigthforward so that's why I don't assume pf 3bet bluffs very often until proven different and that's why I continued with that assumption on flop too.
Definitely Not saying you are incorrect though, just explaining my line of thoughts there but I still have a plenty of leaks in this format :)
I agree, the population @ $7 level doesn't NAI 3b bluff much. Most players are very passive and won't even 3b strong Kx until they get very shallow.
I wouldn't assume they have a NAI 3b bluffing range until you have seen frequencies which suggest they might be.
Flatting the flop cbet is pretty useless because unless you have a read that villain will cbet then give up on turns if he doesn't have it with a high frequency and you can jam to take the pot down vs a face up surrender.
You don't even beat his unpaired cbets => a lot of A high. So your Q high probably doesn't even have weak show down value.
If he's betting his strong pairs for value + ever barrelling as a bluff, there aren't many turns you like continuing on and might as well give up now and get on with the next hand.
That said, preflop=>flop, I suspect you can flat in position here for the implied value vs his NAI 3b range.
I posted an example of exploring this here:
http://www.husng.com/content/flatting-nai-3b-marginal-holdings-high-implied-value
You can probably tweak some of the working assumptions and limitations you place on each player and come with a reasonable idea of whether you can profitably flat the NAI 3b or not.
If you do put in the effort, can you post it? I'd be interested in the result.