Hello everyone!
So much has changed that it is better to change this blog completely. The last two months everything is going very well. The biggest thing that has changed is the change in my mindset. I know from chess how important it is to be fully concentrated. If you are not you can truly lose against anyone. I see it when I play blitz on playchess. If I play at my best I can beat 2300 players, but if I am not fully concentrated I can easily lose against 1600 players. This is a good indication how much variance you can experience while playing a game. Especially when you understand that 50% of all chess players will be in the range between 1600-2300. With poker this variance in your performance is less visible. You have less indication if you play bad or good, but on the background your focus plays a huge factor and will determine your position in your range of playing . For the last months I am constantly searching for this focus, trying to understand when I am playing good and when I am playing bad. Another vital aspect that comes from playing chess is to never underestimate your opponent. Every move he make comes from an idea. In chess, especially in long games, you try to figure out why he made this move. Any opponent will make moves with a reason, it can be a very bad reason or shallow reason, but there will be always some thoughts to it. To think that chess is based on pure calculation is one of the biggest misconceptions. In human chess, you play the opponent and you make moves that will give him a tough time, while off-course also considering tactical and positional factors. For example, in top level chess the players are preparing openings that give a hard time to the specific opponent. In many cases this opening is not correct but they know that the specific opponent will have a hard time with it. There are many similarities between chess and poker and it gives me always a lot to think about.
Back to poker, I am focussing 100% on the 15 dollars games now. Since yesterday I played 50 games and scored a 17,5% Roi and a 11% EvRoi. It would be awesome to keep this scores, but that is going to be hard. A made a few mistakes where I was not happy about. One time my opponent was slow-playing his 3 of a kind. I was not paying attention enough to his play and thought he was weak and made a big raise and lost all my chips with A-high. The way he played in the game, I should have seen it. On the other-side I had one game where I had a great read after 3 hands. I checked the name of my opponent and saw that he was a losing player. Normally I would be pretty conservative in my 3-bets but I noticed really fast that he gives up really fast after aggression. I wrote down: this guy does not do crazy things and manage to put a lot of pressure on him and win the game pretty fast. So, I am going to keep on working on my game, I am having a lot of problems with my c-betting (to passive) and I need to figure out when to c-bet and not to c-bet. Many and many more things to learn about this game, the climb has just began.
Take care all! Keep a positive spirit and don't beat yourself down!
You might be interested in this:
http://www.husng.com/content/given-my-results-what-should-my-confidence-level-be-about-my-true-winrate-0
300BI BRM is pretty overkill if you have a decent win rate.
Your quoted 55-57% is pretty much crushing hypers.
You could definitely consider being more aggressive if you can stay mentally strong.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR6NECspktM
Thank-you for your comment and the added information. When it comes down to be more aggressive in going up in limits there are also other factors that are important. For me that is mine mental mindset. I feel much better if I have a 300 BI buffer. I am more at ease and do not need to stress about moving up and down. Second I think that my play is orientated on the 3,5 dollar BI. I already noticed is that when I play another level it takes some games to adept and that I am missing information. For know my play is based to maximal exploit the 3,5 dollar. I analysed for example ( the example is below) that I can shove any two cards with 8 blinds and the blinds are more than 20 chips. I analysed that this tendency happens at all blinds. At the 7 dollar and higher BI, I am sure that I can not shove any two cards at 8 blinds. The way I learned myself to play is suddenly losing money instead of winning money. The most important goal when I start to hit the higher BI is to gain information and process this is as fast as possible. My goal at every BI should be to maximally exploit the population. For that I need to have processed all the information that is avaible and also have a good understanding how this information effects the game. Before I can do that I have a lot of work to do, and I hope that once I finished it I am able to adept as fast as possible on every BI I will play.
Example 3,5 dollar BI:
7.5-8.49
Handen
1136
Attempts to steal by Hero
470
41%
OS by Hero
338
30%
100%
Raises by Hero
132
12%
Folds by Hero
468
41%
Limps
198
17%
Folds by Villain on OS
208
62%
Calls by Villain on OS
130
38%
Blinds
OS
Folds
Foldpercentage
20
35
15
43%
30
104
64
62%
40
126
79
63%
50
57
39
68%
60
17
11
65%
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Well you're the only person that needs to be comfortable with your macro poker strategy.
Best of luck with you :)
I rarely played the $3.50 on Pokerstars, but I believe that you highly overestimate the players on the $7. They stink badly. End of story.
The hardest thing to do on the $7 is to get a lobby up ... the players are really bad.
Hi.
I have experience (about 3k game sample) @ $3.50 and $7.00 games.
I tend to agree with the comments about the players being stinky.
BUT
Not all fish have the same stink.
@ these stakes the main stinks your customer base will expose you to are:
80% weak passive fish => they stink of fish that slowly rot to death from passively flapping around out of water too long until they die
15% weak aspiring regs => they stink of being so straight forward, the sterile odour of ammonia oozes from their uncreative value oriented ranges
5% maniac fish => they stink of sweat because they working hard throwing so many punches, but this will quickly turn to the smell of shit when they charge at you for the last time, you stick your leg out and they find themself face first in a pile of their new stink
There are a lot of extreme player types at these stakes.
Each takes adjustments to maximally exploit.
To generically categorise all players @ a stake as "bad" without qualifying what makes them bad (and more importantly, how to take advantage of their mistakes) is to leave a lot of expectation on the table.
Curious about what your graph/stats looking for both of each this is what im currently playing and also what your playing atm cdon?
Dont Let Variance Affect You!
My results at poker in general to date have been pretty ordinary.
That said, I have found some initial success @ HUSNG hypers (micro stakes to date).
Started focusing on HUSNG hypers ~ 6 months ago after starting to play / learn poker ~ 15 months ago.
I'm opted in on sharkscope if you want to see my results (cdon3822, not very impressive).
As at 16/12/13 (time of writing), my results @ $3.50 & $7.00 level on pokerstars have been:
=> $3.50, played 1,439 games w 3.7% ROI ~ $186
=> $7.00, played 1,853 games w 1.9% ROI ~ $246
(Not sure whether this includes random games @ other formats but in HU hypers I think my expected ROI is about 3% @ $3.50 buyin and about 2% @ $7.00 buyin lifetime, with that hopefully increasing as I improve)
I've taken a couple of unsuccessful shots @ $15 level as my bankroll grew.
=> $15.00, played 27 games w -5.7% ROI
I'm a very committed student of the game and looking to continue to improve and move up in stakes in 2014 to try to beat games where I might be able to make a more meaningful return on my time. I'm quite active on this forum and eager to connect to other people who are passionate about the game.
If you want to add me on skype, my name is ciaran.j.donovan (Sydney, Australia).
thanks for info.I guest we doing the same thing except you got bunch more volume than me at 3.50-7s hopefully moving the stakes in 2014 also and learn day after day im coming back at hypers to see how much i can go far if im putting work volume etc..I check a couple of threads/answer you give to people and im very suprise by your level im sure you will rise a lot in 2014 if you willing to put the hours.
I send you a request on skype tremblay17
Wish you the best personnaly and pokerwise ;)
Dont Let Variance Affect You!
Of course not all fish do play the same, i never enforced this kind of thinking, did I?
Still, fish are bad players and as-not-a-fish, you should have an edge over them.
And yes; the players on the $7 are overall bad players. That is the reason why so many stay on this level for months. You take a good $60 regular and a good $7 regular and the $60 regular will make sushi out the $7 regular.
I am not saying that there are no exceptions...but in 95% the players on the $7 are bad.
Hi.
The important question is not how bad they are but how we can exploit there playing style to the max. What would be your estimate when it comes down to a maximal winrate at 7 dollar BI HU hyper? I would say around 55%. What are your thoughts?
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I have been playing more 7 dollars hyper and I agree that the level isn't that great. To say that they all stink is not entirely true. I played some good and solid regulars overthere which are hard to beat. Besides that the overall aggression is way higher at the 7 dollar. A lot of players are overaggressive which sometimes makes it hard to have an big edge. For example I see people 3-bet shoving K9s and weaker, and if I call I am mostly a bit ahead but not that much. This overaggressive style of other players gives you an edge but not that much. Anyway, before I can really crush the 7 dollar, I need a decent sample size and abstract a lot of information. After that I think winning above 54% is possible. Anybody has an idea what is a decent sample size to start with population tendencies, and how up-to-date is has to be?
Update:
This month I played 660 games on different levels. Below are the scores.
1,5 dollar: 11 games, W9/L2, 82%, net expected: 5 dollar, real winning: 9,4 dollar. Net expected winrate 70%
3,5 dollar: 463 games, W262/L201, 56,7%, net expected: 110 dollar, real winnings: 161 dollar. Net expected winrate 55,1%
7 dollar: 180 games, W107/L73, 59,4%, net expected: 47 dollar, real winnings: 205 dollar. Net expected winrate 53,3%
I have been really lucky in the month of December. My play was not super, my A game is better when I am below net-expected. On the other side I did not lose money because of tilting. So the net expected winrate is pretty close to the way I performed.
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And sometimes, your opponent will shove all in with AA in the first hand; does that now mean, that you should fold KK every time. If you wanna discuss about the fact if all players on the $7 level are bad or just 95% of them, you have got to much them to spare. You might wanna invest in figuring out how not only have a low edge, if your opponen 3betshoves so extremly wide.
Hi.
Like I said, I need to analyse this and set up ranges but for that I need decent sample size. At the moment I am playing without a lot of knowledge at the 7 dollar. I know at the 3,5 dollar the 3-bet shove calling range should be pretty tight. Maybe at the 7 dollar I can add A6, A7s and A7os to my calling range in the firsts hands. I do not know yet, need to analyse that. Any other advice, or response to the questions I asked?
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I don't seem to find any unanswered questions, well, with exception of the population tendency. Forget about it. The only purpose of analyzing population tendencies is to define a default strategy, that will work against your opponents. Forget about it.
1) If the population tendencies ever has been analyzed by someone who defined a strategy - which i hardly believes; no $500 player analyzes $7 population tendencies - he would had come up with the idea AFTER he had the experience and sample size.
2) w/o a huge sample size (tens of thousands of hands) you cannot do it. So, if tomorrow you have the BR for the $15 stakes, you start out with a sample size of zero hands. But you still need to play hands, right? So, how are you gonna chose them? You need a default strategy. And you get a default strategy from any series here. It wil be hardly GTO, but it will be a very profitable default strategy, based on which you can adjust.
Hi.
And where do you think a default strategy is based on... Every BI level should be approach with a different strategy. For now I do use a default stategy for the 7 dollar does not mean it is correct. Did you ever check how you should play against the default strategy based on HUSNG. I can tell you that it is not using the same strategy. Anyway, this not so constructive approach of you is not going anywhere. Take care.
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Jeez....you are just another forum theory shark. Well, take care of yourself.
Hi.
Lol, this discussion deteriorated quickly :P
With respect to population tendencies, Barrin makes some good points about population tendency sample sizes.
But as I mentioned previously, my impression of the players @ $7 level is:
80% weak passive fish
15% aspiring regs
5% agro maniacs
So obviously your default strategy should be to exploit category 1. weak passive fish because they will be the majority of your customer base:
- They will let you check down your A high and K high, even on boards they can represent.
- They will c/c 2 streets and fold to the 3rd barrel when they miss their draw => when they don't they will kindly announce it by donking the river.
- They will have a very imbalanced value oriented c/r range on the flop heavily weighted to >= top pair.
- They play too many hands OOP preflop relative to how little they contest postflop.
- They won't 2 and 3barrel you off your c/c 2nd pair type holdings
- They don't 3b vs wide open ranges enough
- They will make transparent bet sizes when they have it, particularly once they show aversion to protecting vs draws
Obviously a forum is not the medium to discuss an entire strategy. But you get the point => they have lots of leaks / imbalanced ranges which if you think about you can adjust to exploit.
I have not seen it, but I understand Sentin's video pack has a strategy for new players which will work quite well vs the players who populate these stakes.
But I would advise against blindly implementing a strategy without understanding why it works fundamentally. If you do this, you will not be able to adjust to players with different tendencies.
With respect to your other query about max win rates / ROIs achieveable.
My impression is that very good players could achieve around 4-5% ROI at lower stakes (say <= $15) and 2-3% at mid stakes (say $30 <= BI <= $100), and at high stakes (>=$200) it would be unlikely you could do better than 1-2% ROI unless you were a poker savant.
^^ This is my general interpretation of the math below and impression of quality of player pools (I've never played higher than $15 games so take it for what it's worth)
I worked through some of the theory ROI / win rate numbers a while ago here.
http://www.husng.com/content/roi-and-micros-living
If we run sensitivities for ROI ( r,w) :
ROI = w (1 - 2r) - (1 - w)
We can find the likely range of possible achievable ROIs for a given win rate.
The buyin and rake (r) values, I got off:
http://www.husng.com/content/pokerstars-husng-heads-up-sit-and-go-poker-structure-information
as at 17/12/13
If they're not accurate, obviously it will affect the output.
ROI (r,w)
w
BI
r
48.0%
49.0%
50.0%
51.0%
52.0%
53.0%
54.0%
55.0%
56.0%
57.0%
58.0%
3.50
2.9%
-6.8%
-4.8%
-2.9%
-1.0%
1.0%
2.9%
4.9%
6.8%
8.8%
10.7%
12.6%
7.00
2.1%
-6.0%
-4.1%
-2.1%
-0.1%
1.8%
3.8%
5.7%
7.7%
9.6%
11.6%
13.6%
15.00
2.1%
-6.0%
-4.1%
-2.1%
-0.1%
1.8%
3.8%
5.7%
7.7%
9.6%
11.6%
13.6%
30.00
2.1%
-6.0%
-4.1%
-2.1%
-0.1%
1.8%
3.8%
5.7%
7.7%
9.6%
11.6%
13.6%
60.00
2.1%
-6.0%
-4.1%
-2.1%
-0.1%
1.8%
3.8%
5.7%
7.7%
9.6%
11.6%
13.6%
100.00
1.9%
-5.8%
-3.9%
-1.9%
0.1%
2.0%
4.0%
5.9%
7.9%
9.9%
11.8%
13.8%
200.00
1.7%
-5.6%
-3.7%
-1.7%
0.3%
2.2%
4.2%
6.2%
8.1%
10.1%
12.1%
14.0%
300.00
1.5%
-5.4%
-3.5%
-1.5%
0.5%
2.4%
4.4%
6.4%
8.4%
10.3%
12.3%
14.3%
500.00
1.3%
-5.2%
-3.3%
-1.3%
0.7%
2.6%
4.6%
6.6%
8.6%
10.5%
12.5%
14.5%
1000.00
1.1%
-5.1%
-3.1%
-1.1%
0.9%
2.9%
4.8%
6.8%
8.8%
10.8%
12.7%
14.7%
You will notice, if you could achieve 55% win rate @ $7 games, you would be able to achieve an ROI of 7.7%.
Personally I've been able to achieve this over small samples (200 games or so) but as you approach the long term, I think something around 53-54% is more sustainable at these weaker levels if you're really crushing the games.
Regardless of what I think, you can use the table above to visualise the ROI that can be achieved for each level for a given win rate :)
Thanks for the reply. I ended the discussion because first he said everyone is shit on the 7 dollar table (I do not like this mentality) and than he said there is no need to analyse the population tendencies for the 7 dollar table. Correct me if I am wrong.
I think there are different leaks on the 7 dollar, as you mentioned, and it is important to discover and handle towards it as quik as possible.
Overaggressive: many OS, 3-bet shove and potsized bets. Not easy to play when you do not have the cards. This strategy is a leak but it really needs you to adapt really fast
Calling station: this guy is calling with everything. Can be pretty annoying if you have nothing and have the feeling he doesn't have much either. If you know this it is pretty easy to play against it.
Transparant betsizing: more is better. Overbets and 3x minraise should be treaten with safety.
Passive below the 12BB. This one I love.
Winrates
At the 3,5 dollar I had a net expected winnings above 55% over 4000 games. I think a 56% is maximal possible but well I do not think a lot of players are like me and analysed the tendencies at this level. Without this and just solid play winning between 53-54% seems good.
At the 7 dollar my net expected isn't that good (around 52% over 4000 games). This is mostly because I started with HU Hyper at this level. I think if I do all the analyse of this level I can be above 54%. The play is a bit tougher at this level, less passive players and calling stations, but still very beatable. My focus will be to score a net expected around 55%, which I think is max. at this level. I hope that after a good up-to-date sample size (3000 games) I can start to build up population tendencies and see what the max. is what I can score. So my schedule is that I have played 3000 games at 7 dollar at the end of march. Than have a few weeks to finish all the analyse I want to do and than start crushing the 7 dollar for a few months and expand my bankroll for the next level.
LVT
So, you do not like to be called a fish and yet you wanna make a population tendecy analyzis, on a highly populate players field, like the $7 hyper hu sng, based on a tiny simple size of 3000 games?
Hi.
You can call me a fish, no worries. The population tendencies is just a indication. And if you do not have more reads it is the best indication you can go by. For me it helps because it gives me a bit oversight of what is going on in the field. It really helped my game because by setting up an alias I also got a perspective from the other side and what they where doing.
LVT
Didn't read all replys, but I agree with barrin that creating population tendencies is not the best idea here. It will only make you spend more time on 7$ before moving up. And even though you could probably use the same tendencies on higher levels, I think its better to spend that time studying to get new ideas, and playing. If you really want to do this you have to make at least two groups, winning and loosing players. You get this information already in the first hand, and your tactics should be based on this, so making population tendencies out from one big group is information you wouldn't get to use too much.
And don't focus too much on what winrate you can achieve on each level. Like you said, if you don't hit your goal It's easy to give up a little. Focus on making the best decision in every situation, and you'll do good :)
Thanks for your reply. I am playing the 7 dollar now and focused a bit more on the right decisions, enough work to do on that. Creating population tendencies gives me also a nice perspective on my flaws and different expectations. It is hard work but once you have the format set it is just about filling up the blanks on other levels. Besides that, I think I will be stuck on the 7 dollars for a few months anyway so I will try to see what kind of an edge I can get. A little bit harder work never harmed anyone (-:.
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Enjoy.
But, maybe, you at least wanna consider mersenneary.
http://www.husng.com/content/population-tendencies-and-moving-target
Hi.
There is a reason population tendancies are so important which I have not heard or read anyone mention before.
The main reason is because when playing an unknown his perception of our range is based on the population tendencies for the level we are playing at.
As soon as you start to ascend the levels our opponents stop fitting into helpful loose/tight/passive/aggressive categories and start playing mainly in response to how they perceive our counter-play will be. They start to anticipate.
And given he needs a large sample of games vs us to conclude that we are in fact deviating from population tendancies we are largely playing opponents who are not playing us (in terms of our ranges generated so far) but are playing our population.
This is the case until we are playing professional regulars.
So to assume that he is playing our thinly perceived statistically insignificant ranges is wrong and highly exploitable.
Good players are playing the population and exploiting our perception that they are playing us.
And so if we know the population we can counter-exploit our good opponents.
This week I almost did not work on population tendencies but really start to work on developing my play postflop. I learned some interesting things on this forum and tried to use this in my game.
Knowing population tendencies can be a big adventage when applied in the right way. I do understand now some points that are made on this forum where they say that population tendencies should not be the main focus on the stage where I am now. But the adventage of creating population tendencies is that not only you start to be more aware of the average villain at your level it also gives a nice view on your own play especially when you are looking at lines you never considered before. After you set up some kind of population tendencies you start to mess around with different ranges on Icmizer which is very helpfull for your pre-flop game. As for know I agree it is not really worth it to finish the population tendencies on the 3,5 dollar and I just start to collect games from the 7 dollar which in the future can be used as an analyse of not only opponent but also myself.
As for your post 3onthego, I love this kind of a deep thinking. But I also have to admit that at this point in my delopment it is not really valid. How many players at the 7 dollar use these kind of strategies? I think if I would start to play the 30's these kind of things will get way more relevant than now.
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Admittedly the $1.50 population struggled today.
Update:
BRM: 1622 dollar
I ended 2013 pretty well. I had a c-net winning of 670 dollar in december and a EV of 400 dollar over 1360 games. Half of the games where at the 3,5 dollar and I think at the end of the month I only played at the 7 dollar level. I focused a lot on my general play and I have the feeling that I start to think deeper about the actions I make and the opponent make in the game. I did not focus that much on ranges but I will start to pick up this work when I have a solid framework. I am doubting if I should wait for making population tendencies when I am at the 15 dollar or start to make them at the end of januari when I have a decent sample size at the 7 dollar. I think it is best to keep on working on my blueprint and that I exactly know what kind of information I want to abstract.
My goals for Januari:
Finish the blueprint for limping and pre-flop ranges for every effective stack depth.
Play a volume of 1500 games:
Play 200 games at the 3,5 dollar and score an EV adjusted of 55% winnings. This means I should end up with EV of 48 dollars and a score of 0,24 dollar per game.
Play 1200 games at the 7 dollar and score an EV adjusted of 54.5% winnings. This means I should end up with EV of 560 dollars and a score of 0,47 dollar per game.
Play 100 games at the 15 dollar and score an EV adjusted of 54% winnings. This means I should end up with EV of 89 dollars and a score of 0,89 dollar per game.
Played so far
3,5 dollar: 27 games, 40,74% winnings, net adjusted +3,54, net won -19,70. EV is below goal.
7 dollar: 74 games, 59,46% winnings, net adjusted +77,95, net won +84,80. EV is above goal.
15 dollar: 1 game, 100% winnings, net adjusted +4,72, net won +14,38. EV is above goal.
These goals are pretty high and need 100% of concentration. I can not play games without full concentration otherwise I will not reach my goals. I hope I will make it (-:. Will be updating.
LVT
Nice results.
Looks like you're crushing it :)
So far, so good (-: I am giving everything to make this challenge! No tilt, no lack of concentrating, full throttle like it always should be.
So far, I finished the first 100 games at the 7 dollar:
58/42, net adjusted +113 D, net winnings +94,60 D
I hope I can keep up this level. Still made a few big mistakes. Calling an OS with A3s above 20BB for example. It just didn't make sense. This guy was aggressive but not enough to make a call like that. Overall my play was ok, but really not that great. I played some very good games against the regulars, played well against the loose-aggressive but my play against tight-passive was really mediocre. Those guys with there constant limping and calling everything can be exhausting. For the first 100, I build up a big overscore with my EV. Lets see, if I manage to keep this level for the next 100 games.
LVT
Very nice result there, keep it up laurents, with this result+ bankroll wise i would certainly stop 3.5 and also 7 go on 15s directly and play strong, but i know your bankroll nit so its all up to you ;)
Dont Let Variance Affect You!
You are right, I am a bit of a bankroll nit. It also has to do with my confidence. With chess I have the same problem. I thought I was not good enough to play in the highest groups against players who are above 2200+. The first time I played in the highest group I beat two 2200 players and had a draw against a grandmaster. Now I feel more confident in chess but I am still a bit nerveus before every game. The funny thing is that I play my best games when I am nerveus. I am super focused then and don't miss a thing. So for the 15 I played 3 games and won 3 (-:. But over a long period of time it is sometimes anoying to always feel that bit of pressure on your shoulder. That is why I like to feel a bit more comfortable overall when I am playing.
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Like i said its all up to you no matter what people telling you (myself include), imo we just want to give you a bit of advice so you can grind the stakes faster and still very safely. If you feel confident enough dont look over you result till a ok/good sample size, play each game so you learn and become someone no regs wanna rematch and you will enough work and dedication, you can make it!
I told a bit same thing to Cdon for the mid stakes but i really you there are actually couple guys on the forum who really can achieve it and faster than me actually. I will pe please if we do some review together in close group and exchange a lot. Could be very interessting for each single of us and make us rise each single stakes easiler. Msg me if you think the same way!
Gl for the rest put some volume and make me jealous!
Dont Let Variance Affect You!
Thanks mate. I already moved up in stakes since I started with the blog, so that is good. Thanks to the pressure from you guys I made a few extra 100 dollars (-:. Now I need to make the step to the 15 dollar, I know it and I can do it. But first I would like to build some extra bankroll. I am now almost at 1700 and I will try to slowly transit towards the 15 dollar BI. For now I am going to finish my challenge, where I already included 100 of 15 dollar games. Next month I will include more 15 dollars games, for sure. By the way, I had a look at your results at FT and PS, and it isn't bad at all. I would advice to try to play a bit more volume. I know it can be hard sometimes to really grind but it is very important.. I also think that Cdon will become a really good player. I have to work really hard to stay ahead of him, or maybe he is already in front of me (-:. I do like your idea, to do some reviews. Do you already have some people in the group?
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If you talk about my post/challenge yes and ive been grinding a lot those days (play more than half of my december volume in 3-4 days max and have been working on my game aswell) so really happy with how its looking now main focus is actually put some volume like i never do, finish my video series, get a small group of commiteed player who is willing to work together and rise as a player!
Wish you the best and check your msg! ;)
Dont Let Variance Affect You!
Been shot taking 15s with a roll about 1/3 size of Laurents lol.
Beat 7s for about 3% ROI over 2k game sample, but a bit higher recently as I've improved.
Would be keen to do some review together.
Played about 80 games @ 15s with approx breakeven results, high adjusted ROI over small sample 10-15%, obviously not sustainable.
Would be good to get an outside perspective on my play.
I'll try to get you on skype when I'm at home.
3% roi is solid. Besides you are way richer than me (-:. To go back to the 3,5 dollar, would not be the great motivator )-:. As for the 15, next month if everything is going well with my challenges I will take a very very big risk and double the volume at the 15 dollar (-;.
LVT
Yer, last time I built my roll to take shots @ 15s I hit a downswing hard and ended up having to move down 2 stakes to the $3.5 level.
I can understand why you are conservative with your bankroll :)
Update: change blog.
LVT