I've been playing hyper HUSNGs for a while now and have played just over 3k games, mostly at the $3.5 - $7 level on pokerstars.
I set up some queries in pokertracker to see if I could spot any glaring leaks in my game.
I have some questions resulting from my analysis ...
Background info:
| Tournaments | 3331 |
| ITM | 52.69% |
| ROI | 2.31% |
Drill down, all hands played by position:
| SB | BB | Net | |
| ALL | (Tournament Desc: STT (2 max) Hyper-Turbo SNG) AND (Posted Blind / Ante Posted Small Blind) | (Tournament Desc: STT (2 max) Hyper-Turbo SNG) AND (Posted Blind / Ante Posted Big Blind) | |
| Hands | 24,603 | 24,540 | |
| E(BB) | 3,142 | 571 | |
| E(BB) / hand | 0.13 | 0.02 | 0.15 |
1. I am making chips IP but pretty much breaking even OOP. Obviously you can't tell anything about leaks I have OOP from this alone. I feel like this is an area of my game that has improved a lot - I was bleeding chips badly out of position for a while (I think mostly as a result of folding too much to min-raises) but I have been working on this leak. Still, over about 25k hand sample I'm making about 6 times as much in position as out of position. I was wondering, in other players experience, what sort of win rates have you been able to achieve out of position?
Drilll down, single raised pots by position:
| SB | BB | Net | |
| Raise | (Tournament Desc: STT (2 max) Hyper-Turbo SNG) AND (Maximum Raise 2Bet) AND (Posted Blind / Ante Posted Small Blind) | (Tournament Desc: STT (2 max) Hyper-Turbo SNG) AND (Posted Blind / Ante Posted Big Blind) AND (Maximum Raise 2Bet) | |
| Hands | 14,790 | 11,983 | |
| E(BB) | 8,314 | - 5,063 | |
| E(BB) / hand | 0.56 | - 0.42 | 0.14 |
Drilll down, 3b+ pots by position:
| SB | BB | Net | |
| 3b + | (Tournament Desc: STT (2 max) Hyper-Turbo SNG) AND (Posted Blind / Ante Posted Small Blind) AND (Maximum Raise 3Bet OR 4Bet OR 5Bet+ (5Bets or greater)) | (Tournament Desc: STT (2 max) Hyper-Turbo SNG) AND (Posted Blind / Ante Posted Big Blind) AND (Maximum Raise 3Bet OR 4Bet OR 5Bet+ (5Bets or greater)) | |
| Hands | 2,918 | 2,442 | |
| E(BB) | - 2,724 | 2,572 | |
| E(BB) / hand | - 0.93 | 1.05 | 0.12 |
2. In single raised pots I'm making money IP and losing money OOP. My IP win rate is enough to overcome my OOP negative win rate. But it was interesting to see that I am making significantly more OOP from 3b pots. This could be partly a function of 3b + pots being typically bigger in size, but of the expected 2,442BB that I won OOP in 3b+ pots 2,408BB came without a showdown. Given these two results, I think there would be a strong argument for increasing the amount of readless 3b bluffing in my game?
Drilll down, open jams / facing open jams by position:
| SB | BB | Net | |
| Open Jam | (Tournament Desc: STT (2 max) Hyper-Turbo SNG) AND (Posted Blind / Ante Posted Small Blind) AND (Raised All-In) | (Tournament Desc: STT (2 max) Hyper-Turbo SNG) AND (Posted Blind / Ante Posted Small Blind) AND (Raised All-In) | |
| Hands | 5,168 | 2,810 | |
| E(BB) | 2,191 | - 870 | |
| E(BB) / hand | 0.42 | - 0.31 | 0.11 |
3. You can probably get an idea of my aggression level relative to the villain's I've been playing against with ratio of SB / BB hands played for open jams :P
Open jamming, obviously a lot of your expectation comes from fold equity. The flip side of this, if you fold too much vs open jams, villain profits from you giving up too much. I was happy to see that I've achieved a significantly better win rate than the -1.0BB / hand that is yielded from folding. But I was wondering what sort of differential (net number), experienced players with good end game exploitative push/call/fold ranges have been able to achieve?
+ If anyone has good ways of drilling down into data in pokertracker to find potential leaks, could you let me know?
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Hey guys.
I was going through some of my old posts to see if my thinking had changed / improved over the past few months.
I had forgotten about this post I made re OOP win rate.
Unfortunately it didn't get any love the first time around.
But I'm still interested in hearing from winning players what sort of win rates are achievable heads up OOP?
Or can you post any articles / links where this is discussed?
Ive never had a HUD, but in the standard content videos mersenneary does a whole video on PT4 stats.
His bb win rate was 0.04bb per hand and he says in the vid that the number should be positive.
In a downswing he noticed his bb number was negative and i think he drilled it down to being too nitty.
Thanks man, appreciate the reply.
If mersenneary can beat high stakes fish for 0.04BB / hand then I want to be able to beat their low stakes poor cousins even harder.
Got some study to do.
Just rewatched this vid.
His pokertracke's bb = BIG BETS, not BIG BLIND.
So 0.08 bblinds per hand
just check yours
Thats 8 big blinds / 100 hands.
That seems really high for OOP...
It does but it is 100% the figure he gives.
His sb winrate is 0.1 big bets or 20bb/100My guess is edge hu is amplified. Whilst a decent full ring bb/100 may be 5 or 8, hu 14/100 are achievable when hu v fish.
And from watching some high stakes vids, the only difference between them and low stakes fish is the amount of disposable income
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