Coffeeyay again conducts a live review at $15 hypers on PokerStars. As in his previous video, he is taking on an opponent that is unfamiliar to him, which again gives him an opportunity to discuss population tendencies and many solid concepts such as the Nash chart.
Coffeeyay is the creator of the CoffeeHUD and his video pack, Math In HUSNGs, is known for helping people improve their play with essential poker math, software use and study habits.
Coffeeyay's videos are always great. Good quality and high value for players of all stakes.
Is there any new video pack by Coffeyay coming out? I would like to see Math pack vol. 2 or just a regular strategy video pack.
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Thanks for your kind words, still can't announce anything officially but I will definitely be making a video pack of some sort in the near future.
T5s 8bb deep isn´t better to openshove?
Readless, open shoving is better than open folding. However, I believe limping is even better.
Can you elaborate on why please? In particular whether it is a theoretical or experimental result?
I'd imagine the parameters you're considering are:
- fold to jam range => frequency
- call jam range => frequency & equity
- jam over limp range => frequency & equity
- check behind limp range => frequency & equity
- donking range in limped pot
- check folding range in limped pot
- check raising range in limped pot
It's a little bit of both theoretical and historical.
On the theoretical side: Population doesn't raise limps very much (~40% if I remember) and folds a ton to limp cbets (~60% i think at this depth off the top of my head), so I did some approximating for getting folds + occasionally hitting hands (I used ProPokerTools Hand v Range graph to estimate how often i'm hitting hands and how much they're worth). At that point I compared estimate to my estimate of open shoving (which I computed using same tools as in Math in HUSNGS pack using a population mixed range and computing vs that) and I believe limping to be better. The open shove expectation isn't really that great anyways so it's not hard to make limping better.
Historically I've found this to be true as well. Unfortunately there's no way to have sample on T5s exactly, but I have looked at many groupings and have been very satisfied with the results of limping shallow with hands that would otherwise be at the bottom of our open shove range and top of our folding range (or our entire folding range depending on depth).
Hope that helps!
Yer that makes sense.
There would be quite a bit of overlap (essentially the same range) between villains' inelastic call jam range and his jam over limp range.
By limping, we isolate ourself against the bottom of villains' range, against which we have much better equity with a hand like Tx5x.
http://www.propokertools.com/simulations/show?g=he&h1=Tx5x&h2=60%25-100%...
http://www.propokertools.com/simulations/graph_hvr?g=he&h1=Tx5x&h2=60%25...
And villains tend to play extremely straightforwardly in limped pots < 10BB.
Given they hit the flop ~ 30-35% of the time, we'd expect they would be c/f ~65-70% of the time.
Net of the percentage of the population that will contest by either donking or c/r bluffing, with the former being more prevalent than the latter, the ~60% c/f figure sounds about right.
Do you raise limps to t70 with value as well? And why you do not like raising A8s non all in, as we still dominate some part of his limp/calling range and I think we can do better than 1bb/hand (ofc I might be wrong here, cause I have not run any db queries, cause my db is too small for that). Which Ax is bottom of your non all in raising range? Also, what do u think about raising limps bigger with Ax? Lot of guys do that, but I was thinking about it and only advantage I can think of is that we win few chips more when we cbet and villain gives up. But we actually invested more money into a pot, so we do not have that big leverage.
I also want to ask you about your readless strategy. Does not this limping hurt your hourly? (no offense, I am just curious). And how much u limp and how much u minraise readless?
Thanks in advance for your answers!