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$11 how to play in 3bet pots

About the 10th hand of the tourney. He has opened every button. Once he min cbet 995 and fold to a small raise. He's folded twice to my raises pre, called once and hasn't 3bet yet. My hand is obviously very strong given the stuff I've seen people 3bet in these games. I can't imagine being called by worse too often. Is it fine to call to just try and hit a pair, flush draw or straight draw? No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBRSA20101495 BTNHero1505  Effective Stacks: 50bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is BTN Hero raises to 90, RSA2010 raises to 270, Hero calls 180 Flop (540, 2 players) RSA2010 bets 275, Hero folds Final Pot: 815

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*bump*

*bump*

soulouri's picture
I don't mind calling with

I don't mind calling with these sort of hands that figure to flop well.  The only time i'd suggest laying it down preflop is if you have a read on your opponent that he's very TAG and you can just chip away at him with button raises and cbets.As played folding on the flop is obviously super standard, you can't play back at this otherwise it's a total gamble and you're likely going to be called needing runner runner.I think it's totally fine to flat when this deep, but if it were a bit shallower say 30BB deep or so i'd let it go because apart from investing so many chips pre, there's always the possibility he's got you completely crushed.Cliffs: super standard, nh.

jaymzz's picture
Rookie advice here, but i

Rookie advice here, but i think flatting KJs depends completely on how well you play postflop against this guy. I think its a very though hand to play in a 3bet pot where u don't have the initiativeFolding to his flop cbet, I'm not sure about that actually. I think shoving has A LOT of fold equity to his Cbet range on this board, but i have no clue about this guy his calling range. TAGGies tend to call here way too tight on the 10$ games. I'm not an expert but folding KJs 100% of the time here looks a little but too nitty for me.Maybe some coach advice on this?

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re: KJs in 3bet pot

Calling preflop:  absolutely fine, especially being so deep.Floating flop:  Without reads this would be a very high risk move.. but floating in pos and betting the turn will take the pot away pretty often against his non Ax and AA holdings.  The problem with it is that his range can be pretty 50/50 here in terms of you winning.  For example, lets say a blank like a deuce falls on the turn.  If he has a pocket pair like 77+ he is likely to check and fold most of the time (but who knows with some of the fish at the $11 level).  The other side are his monsters like AQ, AK, and AA.. those hands may be likely to check raise the turn allin after we float and bet.  So if a deuce falls and he checks we bet something like 450 at 815 in the pot.  Now we have only 510 left in our stack (1505-270 calling rr pf -275 floating flop -450 betting turn) and some folks at this level won't fold pocket pairs, in fact instead of checking they'll just shove/jam thinking they are committed.  This line gives us a better chance to rep a hand (you'll prob be put on a flush draw a decent % of the time, or they will just say that to give them an excuse to call with 77+) than raise-shoving flop, and also doesn't put our stack all-in allowing for a chance to come back and win if things don't work out.  Whereas, if we shove and we get called our chances of winning are very limited.I think this situation plays better with bigger stacks, and definitely with reads on an opponent (3bet range and frequency).  I think it is an okay line to take, but again comes with very high risk.  That said, I think folding is definitely fine here as well. 

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