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2 pairs : CR turn from Solid Player (TAG) 6.25 : range calculating

No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players • PokerStars Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBSolid Player (TAG)855  BTNHero2145  Effective Stacks: 43bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)// So -  low stakes. Opponent is 45 vpip on SB and 40 vpip on BB. Most of all on showdowns he had pretty tight OOP hands, like A6s, KJo, KTs, QTs, 66.Hero is BTN  Hero raises to 50, Solid Player (TAG) calls 30// 2.5x raise to steal and also its nice bet cause our hand is pretty good to play it in position Flop (100, 2 players) Solid Player (TAG) checks, Hero bets 75, Solid Player (TAG) calls 75   // CB, his fold to cb flop is about 70%. So if he doesnt have a king or pretty strong drow he will fold. If he had strong pairs or hands like AK, QK he would reraise me preflopTurn (250, 2 players)  Solid Player (TAG) checks, Hero bets 125, Solid Player (TAG) raises to 280, Hero calls 155  // It is his 1st checkraise, but he was pretty aggressive on the turn, usually he leads after calling my CB on the flop. But he reraises me too small, so i still think that there is a lot of flush draws, gutshot straight draws and smthing like that. Now we want to know what his range is. His preflop calling range is about 40%. Weaker - fold. Stronger - raise. Assuming he will play 40% of his hands and 3bet me like 7,5% on preflop - his check-call range on the flop will be about 20% (and 10% for raise with the hands like 33, or KQ, K3, Q3 and some strong kings). There is a lot of weaker Queens. Also - he will call with 15% of drawing range. Kinda - JT, AJ, AT, strong flush draw.So. The turn comes. What is his check-raise range? A2-A8, JT, J9, T9, T8 flush + K7, Q7 - 2 pairs = about 9% of the flop range. Also there's gonna be some flush-draw hands like AxTs, QxJs and so on.We've got  4.23:1 (19%) pot odds and about 39% EV against his check-raising range. What do i need to do? I want to call and see what the river is gonna be.  River (810, 2 players)   Solid Player (TAG) bets 450, Hero folds   // He bets and ALL the hands in his range (if i calculated it right) - will beat us. Totally. 0% EV.Final Pot: 1260// So - what do i want for. I wanna hear some opinions about my range calculating in that situation. Also - maybe it wasnt so good to call on the turn? (again - maybe there are not so many draws in his range to check raise me?)sorry for my english, i'm from Russia. I mean i hope there are no errors, wrote it too fast, but if so - sorry. 

crstn's picture
I am pretty sure your call on

I am pretty sure your call on the turn is fine, given the implied odds of his remaining 450 Chips when you fill up.To your calculations: Maybe you miss some smaller suited connectors 98s, 86s, 65s.Then further I see you automatically exclude crap hands, even if he is a tag player, he seemed to have lost a bigger pot a few hands ago, but that is something you have to know from the table dynamics if he is starting loosening up or spewing pre.You totally neglate the fact that he may make a move on your weak turn bet, which also is something you have to know from your reads.Would be a interesting spot what you do if the river bricks, lets say the 2h falls. How do we react?

eQuadro's picture
To your calculations: Maybe

To your calculations: Maybe you miss some smaller suited connectors 98s, 86s, 65s.nope, i calculated them all, but i just didnt write it down, cause there are too many hands, so i just spelled words like "20%" "30%" and so onWould be a interesting spot what you do if the river bricks, lets say the 2h falls. How do we react?i guess call his bet // his aggression on the river is too high, as the aggression on the turnor check if he checks // bet [+] we can make him fold weak flush | bet [-] usually he won't  call without the flush

DonNew's picture
I think you should bet turn

I think you should bet turn bigger like 160-190