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DonNew's picture
2800 games conclusion= im a fish who runs bad lol!

After seing Roamus checking out his AI EV i decided to create an alias in HEM and look at my HU SNG career so far.Well either im a marginal winner or marginal loser :/ It really seems like the AI EV and actual results are moving in exactly oppositedirections as of late, lol. Maybe its because my ROI is hovering around 0% that the variance is so sick?? Anyway i need to change something thats for sure. The 2800 games are spread out between stakes like this:300 games at 5s1700 gamea at 10s800 games at 20sMost of them are reg speeds. I have been 1-tabling like 60-70% of the games and 2-tabling the rest.I cant go back to the 5s cause the money means to little for me to care. But maybe i should stick to 10s for a while, and only single table?Anyway i justed wanted to share my lifetime hu sng graph for fun, even though it shows im a loser ://  EDIT: OOOPs made the pic to wide... 3 2 1 waiting for Ry to get mad lol

qattack's picture
Hi Don, what are you poker

Hi Don, what are you poker goals and how much time do you spend studying vs. playing?You say that you can't go back to the 5s because the money doesn't mean much to you at those stakes. This would indicate to me a more casual approach to the game?Speaking for myself, even if I play for play money, I always like to make the best possible decision. Mostly, it does not matter what stakes I am playing.Maybe if I'm REALLY bored, I'll jump into a microstakes 6max cash game and trying to play a bit LAG (even though that's the worst game to play that way!), but even then I often wind up tightening up and not playing many hands.Anyway, the point of my reply is to find out what you would like out of poker. While it's possible to enjoy poker AND be serious about it, I've found that in my situation, where I need to earn my income from poker, the serious side of poker most often reduces or eliminates the enjoyment.However, HU SNGs are much more engaging to me now than other forms of poker, so at least for now I am really enjoying myself. I've been playing robotic, mass-tabling poker for so long that it's very refreshing to stop and think about every situation and adapt to the opponent.I only single table and will continue to do so until I get "good" at the $30s, and then I will decide from there what I want to do.

fuseo's picture
Don, I think there is a good

Don, I think there is a good chance u are a marginal winner. When you have a low natural ROI you are going to experience greater variance in both directions.

I don't think stakes matter, just play a stake that is comfortable. But I do think it is a bad idea to two table, you'll learn more one tabling.

DonNew's picture
Thanks for the comments both

Thanks for the comments both of you:I think i spend around 20 hours a week playing poker actually and its probably around 16-17 hours playing and 3-4 hours studying. Although ive noticed lately that its hard for me to watch a video in 1 go. So usually i just watch half a video, and then maybe come back to it. I dont take notes anymore, but maybe i should go back to that. Im not sure.I just have a hard time playing the 5s cause i know i can replenish my roll, so the risk of ruin is not a concern of mine. Id rather play the 10s or 20s, where it is easier for me to focus (and the skill level of my opponents marginal better). Even though the variance will be higher here cause my ROI is closer to 0.Actually im fairly ambitious with poker, at least with my goals. Im a casual player as I have a full time job, but I would like in time to be a 50-100s reg. I know i have big focus problems when my sessions are longer than 1-2 hours, and also have major tilt problems. If i would get rid of those i could probably get an "easy" ROI increase of 2-3%.I think my theoritical and strategic knowledge of poker is fairly good but of course there is room for A LOT of improvement.And your both right about single-tabling, I should just stick to that. But atm I think being able to play my A-B game for longer time + never aggro monkey tilt is what would improve my game the most. Thats why I have started reading "The Pokermindset", to improve my mental attitude towards poker.The next book I will read is Colin Moshmans HU book, cause ive heard a lot of people recommend it, and it will hopefully fix some leaks regarding my strategy.  But i will not 2-table anymore, until/if i can show an roi of 8-10%. 

qattack's picture
I found Moshman's book

I found Moshman's book helpful for the fact that I can take time away from my computer and still learn. It also gave me an entire overview of the basics of what it takes to learn HU play. I think that's something that is lacking in the videos here. When you have an overall framework of things that are important, I think it's easier to learn everything in more depth, because you have a frame of reference.However, the book is missing (and cannot possibly teach) one of the most important factors in HU play...gameflow and real-time adjustment to opponent's tendencies.The book is definitely worth the price. But fortunately for us, the book by itself doesn't get the job done. The real meat of our learning will come from vidoes here.I think it's very important for you to take notes in some way while you are watching videos. When I take notes, it takes my over twice as long to watch a video generally, but I am very focused on watching the video and learn important situations in more depth. I can also go back and review critical hands and concepts to make sure that I remember them.

Pchelkin R's picture
that is sick graph and a big

that is sick graph and a big sample damn.. i think however you are winning player for sure.You mention monkey tilt, which i see could make the graph that way. I think you should focus on the mental part.

Ruskiis4

DonNew's picture
Yes i will definetely read

Yes i will definetely read Moshmans book after finishing the poker mindset. And maybe I should take notes to 1-2 videos a week, make it a goal of mine so I can't skip it :)Yes the tilting sessions got to go, I think I have already gotten better at recognizing and even stopping sometimes when tilting, but still soooo much room for improvement. 

dzikijohnny's picture
I have the same problem I am

I have the same problem I am 49.4% itm in $10s and am getting killed even with rakeback.  But, I do well in the $5s.  Every time I try to move up get killed.  Well last time was a tilt thing.  I am just going to be doing the $5s until I am super rolled for the $10s and then move up.

DonNew's picture
im "glad" to hear there are

im "glad" to hear there are others also having this b/e problem :)Yeah lets leave tilting to others!

Pchelkin R's picture
Still very sick stuff here,

Still very sick stuff here, wish a coach would comment;)

Ruskiis4

qattack's picture
I have previously spoken with

I have previously spoken with the programmer of HEM and he told me that HEM has some bugs when dealing with HU SNGs. EV could very well be one of those bugs.

RyPac13's picture
It looks like a prolonged

It looks like a prolonged period of bad luck, but you never really know.  The luck measurement is better than using results to figure out how good you are, but it's nowhere near perfect, especially when we look at extreme examples.I tell most people that ask these questions to just focus on improving their game.  Variance can be tremendous in this game, but there's one thing you cannot do: control variance.  You can improve your game, however, and it will minimize the damage that variance will do to you on average.

DonNew's picture
The funny thing is I wasnt

The funny thing is I wasnt thinking i was running bad at all before i looked at the graph. I thought I was maybe just running at EV, so the graph actually made me kind of upbeat because maybe i wasnt playing that bad after all. still i will try not to focus on this, and use the focus on my game like you suggest.

dzikijohnny's picture
One of the best things you

One of the best things you can do is set your results filter for after.....today.  And don't switch it back!!!!!!!!!!!!  Remember past results do not indicate future preformance.  I think it is tilting sometimes to look back.  Anyone know an easy way to purge all results in HEM?  I plan on doing that at beginning of new year.  And right now not going to look back till then. Edit.  I will screen capture my graphs for historical reasons before I purge.