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supersize's picture
Ace high OOP in 3-bet pot

this is only 2nd hand (chopped 1st pot if your wondering why stacks are even ;)) of 4player shootout but i did watch the other game and he was loose/aggressive in that match.bad turn card so i just gave up. is this standard or would you have played any part of this hand different?in the end he was actually a tough opponent to deal with. only folded 6% to steal and 3-bet me 69% over 49 hands.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$5.00+$0.25 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1500  SBstank24bz1500  Effective Stacks: 75bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB stank24bz raises to 60, Hero raises to 190, stank24bz calls 130   Flop (380, 2 players) Hero bets 250, stank24bz calls 250   Turn (880, 2 players) Hero checks, stank24bz goes all-in 1060, Hero folds   Final Pot: 1940 stank24bz wins 1940 ( won +440 ) Hero lost -440 

breakroomgrinder's picture
I play it similar but bet

I play it similar but bet smaller on the flop.  I would go 180 or so and c/f this turn of course.

RyPac13's picture
I like a 200-220 type bet

I like a 200-220 type bet size here, but being consistent I think it's ok to bet as high as 250, this is the type of board you want to bet large on to get full value from any draws or pairs present that you may only get one street of value from anyways.  And since you have A hi and not something like QQ, you obviously do want a fold and I believe there's plenty of prospective FE out there.So I think you played the hand fine given it's the 2nd hand.  Of course adjusting to this opponent after he shows the type of tendencies you describe is a different story.  I'd suggest 3betting to a larger size since he's never folding and widening your 3bet range to include a lot of value hands, even as weak as JT or QJ, K9 and so on.  If he's literally folding only 6% of the time, using a larger size such as 4x when stacks are deep for your 3bet with that type of range should give you a massive edge on average, being in a very large pot going into the flop with a much stronger range of hands.As for countering his 3bets, just open raise around a quarter of your hands and when he 3bets stick it in with that entire range, if he's 3betting 70% or so he'll get toasted pretty quickly (that's more for mid to end stacks, say 40bb or less, but his 3bet size is a factor).  When deeper it will help to know a bit about his postflop play to truly formulate the type of range we feel confident in, but generally youll just 4bet hands that dont' flop well but still have good equity (low to mid PPs for example) when called, and then call his 3bets with the "wide value" range I talked about and you'll have the same effect (stronger hand range going into a larger pot, as well as position this time).  Just stay focused and don't get too caught up in the moment of constantly playing large pot after large pot and your edge can be quite large against this opponent type.

supersize's picture
thx 4 the feedback. at the

thx 4 the feedback. at the time i did feel i put too much of my stack in on this hand but i really don't know how else it could be played other than a smaller c-bet as suggested by u2. still big % of stack just to c/f turn.think i'm going to look over the HH from this game and see if i made any of the adjustments you posted.edit: just realized something... stacks are 1500 so this is 1st match. idk what i was thinking??? lol 

mrbambocha's picture
Is it standard to CB this

Is it standard to CB this flop regardless of the stakes? Feels little bit to wet for me.

about3fiddy's picture
How did he normally react to

How did he normally react to 3bets, and then cbetting flop?Against this particular opp. I don't think a cbet is helping us.As played, ch/folding turn is prob. standard.

mersenneary's picture
I also think we should be

I also think we should be c-betting smaller on this flop (t175) and folding to a jam, but a bigger bet/call like I assume you were planning here is fine as well. I think the flop probably needs to be a little wetter before checking is better.