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Berygreab's picture
Beating the no-fold guys

Hello. I play 20$ and 30$ regular and turbo husng.
In the last year I saw an increase of villains that don't fold: meaning they don't fold the BB, don't fold to C-bets, turn c-bets, check-raise around 20%, attack every Turn when you didn't C-bet etc.. Also they tend to double barrel and tripple barrel. I don't know if those are experienced husng players, maybe from higher stakes (50$ and up), hu cash players or just random fish. It's hard for me to play them, I have a non-showdown redline that goes steadily down, and they win about 55% of hand vs. me postflop or in some case even more. And it's really hard to see the showdown, they bet those turns and river also when I'm in position. It's easy I know- when you have a hand just value bet them, right? But what when I'm card dead? It's so frustrating, sometimes I see myself becoming so passive postflop and folding when I have air. I don't know if I should be patient or what? Or barrel bigger amounts with air?
I find easier to play vs. regs sometimes, as some of them "are able" to fold the BB and flops.
Any advice is appreciated. I hope my english is ok.
 

ARRONWILSON's picture
Kind of a general question to

Kind of a general question to answer without knowing other parts of their post flop strategy or without knowing your cbet frequencies.  If they are folding a very low frequency you should stop bluffing low fold equity flops altogether. Also what does their probe frequency look like, some guys are only probing a low frequency with value, vs them you check back flop and have a more profitable delay cbet vs a weaker range. You should be trying to take more hands to showdown vs them and less of cbetting hands like ace and king to fold out equity share when you usually aren't folding out better or getting called by worse.  Try putting your bluffing range into different lines, if your standard is just to put all your air into a cbet give up on the turn strategy and fold to a river bet unimproved these kind of players are going to really exploit that. Vs that strategy feel ok about not putting another chip into the pot postflop on boards your getting called or checkraised a higher frequency on and try and realise your equity just checking back more.  You also said some of them are barreling you like crazy and its hard to get to showdown, vs them you are gona have to checkraise less value hands on the flop to protect your calldown range. If your standard is to always checkraise strong value that leaves your checkcall range ( of 2nd and 3pairs )  hard to call down unimproved on later streets which can be exploited by a aggressive barreling strategy.  

Berygreab's picture
Probe frequency? you mean how

Probe frequency? you mean how much they bet on the Turn when I don't CBet? well that's like 90% at the minimum.
I swear to God that nobody plays poker anymore, it's all just some mathematical bull****. I see it when it comes to showdown, they show me crap or they value bet something like 3rd pair, just because they don't wanna check-call. It feels like I am playing Fifa with cards or something like Street Fighter. "BET FAST, MAKE HIM FOLD, HAVE AN AGRESSION FACTOR OF 8+, OTHERWISE YOU'RE A WUSS!"
Ah I'm just frustrated. Seems like I will have to step down a limit. I dunno. Had a high ROI though...