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Newff's picture
Best adjustment vs. this type of player.

Hey guys..I just moved to the 50's on FTP and while if you sit first you still get a lot of fish same as the 30's..Once in a while a reg will sit me or I will sit a reg depending on how much time I have..sometimes I don't have time to sit and wait for a fish to sit so I will sit a reg to improve my own game...and while I can kinda hold my own I turn kind of passive against some of them. The ones I am having trouble with are the players that check/raise a lot.

Against a fish I can raise, and cbet dry boards..standard right, easy game. Well against these regs I raise, cbet, and get check/raised lol. So then I become passive and am getting outplayed. What adjustment would you make here against a reg who is playing solid straight forward poker but loves to c/r? If we stop cbetting a lot of board we become passive and it just seems bad. I assume most of the regs will give me the same problem.

Also any videos which deal with this that you reccomend would be cool.

RyPac13's picture
Pay attention to board

Pay attention to board texture and rebluff or float/steal more often.

For example, a lot of regulars don't call a very wide range OOP.  So if you're raising the button first level and he calls, flop comes J62 and he puts in a check raise, you can just reraise him quite often and take it down.  If he's CRing you a lot, then he has air here way too often because this board doesn't really hit a ton of his range (besides a few 6s and the jack).

At the 50 level you probably won't face a lot of fast and good adjustments from any regulars, but just look for logical spots to play back at him and he'll either turn down his aggression or bleed a lot of chips to you.

Skates and xSCWx are probably the two instructors I'd check out first when dealing with aggressive regulars.  I'm not sure any opponent has ever been more aggressive than Skates and he seems to get more aggressive the laggier they are, and xSCWx has some good adjustments, particularly on the flop for you to think about vs good aggressive players.  Check out some of their videos that have "aggressive" or "regular" in the descriptions and go from there.

Newff's picture
Good answer. I do recognize

Good answer. I do recognize these spots to play back for sure..but I guess I just didin't have the balls to do it. Makes sense, rebluffing has to be +EV in these spots because it's like he knows I'm cbetting because of the dry board so he's gonna check/raise. I know he's check/raising because because I cbet a dry board lol so I think I need to just follow through with some bluffs in these spots.

RyPac13's picture
It's part of a larger

It's part of a larger concept of be able to comfortable adjust and do things that you don't normally do against the average player.

For example, say you run into an opponent that calls every PFR and every post flop pot sized bet on every street with any two cards.

Now, against that player, you would bet the flop, turn and river pot with 22 on a 479JK board profitably.  Now, you're not used to firing 3 barrels for value with 6th pair vs 99.9% of your opponents, so this might be an uncomfortable adjustment in your mind.

In reality, it's great value, and you need to realize this and see that the bigger picture is that you'll often be required to do unorthodox things against unorthodox players in order to maximize your edge.

kukulcan's picture
i am having also problems

i am having also problems with such type of villains betting extremely aggressively on flop turn and river.

like OP i rather shut down a bit and wait for a decent hand to flat his pot sized bets, where here a decent hand
is of course a much wider range than against average villain. however i will then call his flop pot sized bet with
any hit and ev. a draw, over cards etc. but then on turn i am in such a difficult spot, when an over card comes, a FD or w/e could have helped him and i fold mostly. if i do this 3 times and 1 time flat turn and have to give up on river i am almost chipless.

i am also getting impatient in case i am card dead and have to fold almost every flop. usually villain the gets
even more aggressive as i fold too much.

still i feel that floating with the right hand is key and shutting down a bit until i get this hand. so i would never float till river with 22 with pot sized bets until turn, except my stack is so low that i have to really "poker". but then i rather shove already on flop or so.

lately it seems to work out a lot better actually as i have opened my floating range here quite a bit and as i am feeling more comfortable with it. i had several villains then shutting down their aggressiveness quite a bit...and this is then already half way through to get villain to usual laggy mode isof aggro.

i also tried out to play myself like this...as i said to myself this must be highly profitable as i saw this play with many top notch players...however, when ever i try it, it does not work really. bad sample tho..i do not know if i just was unlucky, played it badly as i am not used to it or w/e.