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Borderline engame situation

Hi all, first time poster...

Villain is pretty tight aggro, it's been a long tourney and he hasn't been too aggressive preflop in general, but he has stabbed in many pots postflop where i have shown weakness with half pot or pot bets with what seemed to be air. Feels like maybe a thinking player with also the leak of calling too often out of position.

Effective stacks are 8 big blinds and he limps, slightly quicker than normal. He has mixed it up in endgame, sometimes minraising, sometimes limping. I have let him limp like 4 times now with <10 big blinds eff. stacks because i've had junk, and he has stabbed every single pot on flop, either half or full pot. I am dealt K6off in the big blind to his limp, like I said with 8 big blind effective stacks. Should I check it back or shove? If I do check it back, should I ever be donking on the flop?

 

Dean

 

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K6o with 8BB stacks vs limp

Unless you think he has a strong limping range (which he probably doesn't if you have let him limp 4 times in a row) I think this is a pretty easy shove for you. With your description I'd probably even be shoving as low as Q6o here as well as a variety of hands like T9o and 76s.
I tend to lead a lot of flops late game for 1/2 PSB because most players aren't willing to bluff 30%+ of their stack, so you will almost never get raised unless they have a real hand. However, your king high has some showdown value and it sounds like he likes to stab at pots so check/calling to allow him to bluff might be better against this opponent.

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Thanks for the reply Big

Thanks for the reply Big Tuna (sorry, I never found out your real name). He ended up having KJoff this time and was 'trapping', so I was probably too results-oriented with the hand.
Strangely enough, I just played a different guy who raised his buttons pot 93% of the time even into deep endgame and never seemed to adjust (I didn't reshove all too wide over his raises, mostly due to junk hands). He limped once w 10 big blind eff. stacks and I shoved. The next time that he limped, maybe 6 hands later, with 9 big blinds, I shoved w K5 suited, and he showed up with KJ offsuit. Maybe I'm  again being results-oriented, but perhaps some of the really aggro guys end up adjusting by raising their mostly junky hands and then limping the better ones in late game? Obviously I'll have some decent equity when shoving against their junky raises, but I thought that might not be the worst adjustment on their part if they don't overdo the raising part?
 
Dean

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Against a player raising 93%

Against a player raising 93% of their buttons I would be very cautious against their limps. 93% means that they are raising trash hands also, so it makes it more likely that their limp is going to be a trap rather than a weak hand. Some players will adapt faster than others, you really just need to try to get inside the mind of your opponent and come up with the best idea of a range you can. You won't have enough information available to come up with a range that is set in stone, but you can still use whatever information you have to come up with the move that you consider to be the best EV.
I don't really think that it is the best adjustment on their part considering that you are probably calling an all-in with these hands anyways. If you were shoving T9o and hands like that but not calling a shove (I would) then I think it would be better.