Just curious....what is the record for the missing the most flops in a game.
I played the biggest donkey i've ever played and he's willing to go all in with Q high pretty
much..lol..and over 107 hands i only hit part of the flop about 9 or 10 times if that.
How is this even possible..lol..when u have about a 30% chance of hitting part of the flop
each time?
The longest streak I have actually observed in my own games was missing 19 flops consecutively with the possible exception of a hand where I had a low pocket pair. I'm sure I've had longer ones, just hard to notice while zillion tabling, and you don't really see that many flops in a standard HUSNG.
Crazy stuff happens. Sometimes you run bad, and this is a type of bad that's hard to quantify.
All you can do is play well, maybe open up a bit looser? try catch more flops especially as he is willing to go with any average hand. But other than that you have to hope, as Skates said I think it happens to all of us, I played a similar hand last night I had won something like 8 games running, I knew I was playing the hands right but wasn't catching.
I ended up at about 2400-600 and just began getting overly agressive, trying to capitalise on any weakness in play, and got myself back to 1100.
Try remember the times you ran good, we teend to forget those days!
I daytrade the sp500 for a living while trying to work on my game. I struggle with the concept of varience in poker as how its possible to go through the runs that people do. With trading..... my methodology runs at 67% accur. at approx. a 1:1 risk/reward ratio and have never experienced over 1000's of trades the kind of variance that i've had with poker. Maybe some brainiacs out there could shed some light on this matter for me of how its possible to get 2, 3 and 4 outed game after game for sooooo long. I know everyone goes through it, so this is not a rant...just looking to understand how the standard deviation can be so different compared to trading.
thx
Well, missing flops all the time is one thing, what frustrates me most is when you play against someone who's never ever folding to any bets and he's running extremely hot.
Last weekend, I played against such a guy - he basically had no fold button if he hit any piece of the board whatsoever, and queen high or a gutshot was "a piece of the board" for him. I won the first 3 matches against him, and then he started running extremely hot. He called me down extremly light - putting more than half of his stack in with bottom pair or a gutshot at the turn - and hit his miracle cards at the river.
And to make things worse, his miracle cards on the river also improved my hand - I put my money in bad at least 3 times where I shoved over his riverdonk because the river-card gave me top two pair or a set against his runner runner gutshot. Of course, I also dropped two buy-ins to him because I went all-in with a full house against his quads - one was AA on a 777 board, I snapcalled his 30x pot-size (blinds 5/10, 1500 stacks, I raised to 25, he called) donk-overbet-shove and he showed me the 7.
After that, I had to turn off chat because his "haha, got you money in bad again, idiot" really started to tilt me.
It's just variance - when these guys are running hot, there's simply nothing you can do.
The night ended good for me, though - he kept playing me again, and played tons of small pots in position against him, slowly grinding him down and finally ended the night with 1 buy-in up. $50 for about 5 hours of play, that's a horrible hourly, sure - but in earlier days, I would have tilted badly and dropped some 10-15 buy-ins to him instead of ending the session with a win.
I've had some many tilt problems in the past, and I think that's where these guys make their money - sometimes, the biggest donkeys even have break-even sharkscope-stats over some 1000 matches, though they play really bad poker. Maybe that's because they play completely "crazy", so multi-tabling regulars will likely donk off their stack to them if they don't adjust and try to bluff them or try "standard" against them.
Jack