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final hand of my first round in MINIFTOPS HU 1K$

  i just really wanna start this of, no one posting HH's wtfff :Phere is first round of the 1K HU MINIFTOPS villain has blocked sharkscope stats, and seems to not spew hard so far (only 20 hands in)   No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players • FullTiltPokerMiniFTOPS Event #19 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero5605  SBbestdudes4395  Effective Stacks: 220bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB bestdudes raises to 60, Hero raises to 240, bestdudes raises to 540, Hero calls 300 Flop (1080, 2 players) Hero bets 260, bestdudes raises to 700, Hero raises to 1560, bestdudes calls 860 Turn (4200, 2 players) Hero bets 1560, bestdudes goes all-in 2295, Hero calls 735 River (8790, 2 players, 1 all-in) Final Pot: 8790 Hero shows three of a kind, Nines bestdudes shows a pair of Kings Hero wins 8790 ( won +4395 ) bestdudes lost -4395before i ask any questions, or speak my thought process, id like to see some responses on how BOTH players played the hand like for example, i was talking to mjw and rotarysb and mjw basically couldnt believe villain got it in there with KK 250 bbs deep and said i turned my hand face upwhile rotarysb thought it was just me coolering himi deffo attempt to go with mjw's side tho, and i really feel like, i played it fine, but dont wanna think like that because it worked out now, i do agree, that when i 3bet flop i turn my perceived range into nuts type hands only like overpairs/sets/2pairs altho on that flop in 4bet pot wonder what kinda 2 pairs i might have there hahahso i do somewhat agree i turn my hand face upThoughts?also #1 HOPE IT LASTS HAHA :D

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I think your hand does look

I think your hand does look really really obvious. Whether that's fine or not depends on opponent, most people are just not getting away from an overpair here so it doesn't matter. I think if you play it this way though I would probably just flat the flop raise. It leads to perfect stacks to check/jam the turn (reps "fuck it, I think my 9x is good" perfectly, so an overpair is never ever folding), and gives him a chance to bluff if he does have any in his range. I'm not sure what hands in his range 3betting flop does better against - what are your thoughts?

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well pre, i think its an

well pre, i think its an obvious call, villain wasnt 4betting superwide, like never, but still i was 3betting like 35% of hands, so maybe he could just be playing back at me?!, i feel like i can fold my nines often enough on bad boards to not get ownd after calling his 4b and i realise how deep we are, so there is no reason for me to go broke post, if i just flat his 4b, on the flop, i FLOP HUGE obviously the absolute NUTS i decide to lead the flop smallish, because i figure his KQ or AK or AQ type hands, dont really fold to a small donk raise there, hell, they might try and bluff me by raising my small donk lead (so basically i think this flop donk, has a good amount of "induce-value" ) and otherwise, forces big hands, (like kings or aces) to raise often, for value, since they dont wanna just flat and play a relative small pot, with me having the initiative post. TT+ will also most likely raise, because for them, their hand might be good on the flop (if villain has JJ or TT) but a KAQ would be a horrible card for em. hence they want to raise for value AND TO PROTECT their hand imo. and as said before the KQ AK AQ i see floating quite a bit. therefor, i think its just best to lead this flop smallish. eitherway he raises, as we expect him to do like 60% of the time. (just pullin this number out of thin air tho so dont quote me on it) then i have to decide between flatting or 3betting. the thing is, if i flat then what is my turn plan, i am out of position, and i lose the initiative. so imagine this, i flat his flop 3b, pot is like 2K ish? 4K ish behind? (im not sure not looking at exact HH atm) then on the turn, i check, and he checks behind with his KQ AK AQ or an overcard comes to his TT or JJ or w.e OR!! he just decides to give up. so turn might go check check, and on the river, i can probably valuebet like 1.5K at best, ((i think pot would be bigger then 2K  after his flop raise, thinking about it now, dont wanna skip to the hh because ill lose my train of thought)) and i would feel like i have gotten minimum value.so while reraising the flop again, i feel like he will call with EVERYTHING (TT+) and fold his air (smallest part of his range) and his KQ AQ and AK sometimes (also not a huge part of his range, if he even ever has KQ) also when i reraise the flop again, on the turn, i check, as if im check folding, which is good cuzz it might look weak to him, and it might make him stab, however at this point he has like 2K behind with a 4K pot, im obv never folding, but villain does not necessairly realise this. so i feel by raising the flop again, on the turn, he will spew more, or be happier to get it in with a shitty hand, then if id just flat the flop. and i remain initiative.on the turn, i check again, because, well this has 0 strat reason really, ive just been experimenting with a 2-street check raise, in deep games. i often find that when u check raise one hand (here i donkbet / raise, but its prettymuch the same as a check raise, since im betting 220 into 1K+ pot i solely like it better then checking because its just a weird line for villain, and when i donk 220 he has to raise to like 500+ while he could just cbet 400 or something. so i feel like this gets most money in OTF) then ott, yeah i just check again, because i wanna check raise get it in, and IF he checks behind, i just ship the river, hence, we still play for stacks, while if i flat the flop, im not sure if we can, while that is the goal with our top set here. imo. what u are saying, about flatting the flop, to get it in on the turn, with a check jam, i mean, yeah i guess its good, but im not convinced he is always betting the turn, and then i feel fuckd, and if i check the river again, and he checks behind as well, then i feel reallly dumb, i mean, only next to his overpairs, what is he betting the turn with, after we donk flat the flop and check the turn? some air maybe...also i think with the image i have, i dont necessairly have top set there, its not that i spew THAThard, but i wouldnt be surprised if villain would perceive me having TT+ so i thin kwhen i donk / raise thatflop, it might look to villain as if i have either a nutted hand, or some hand i overvalued/overplayed (which isnt unlikely tbh, for reference, check how badly i spew by calling it off with the 66 on 777 flop) i deffo make some silly mistakes where i overvalue hands. so i dont agree, that i turn my hand face-up altho, i do agree, that i rep ALOT of strenght, i just found it, sometimes in deeper husngs, the best way to get money, is to play ur good hands SO AGGRO, that people will think, he is trying so hard to rep the nuts, no way he has it. if that makes any sense at all? hah tl;dr god my reasoning is so flawed in so many ways