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Lhc76's picture
FTOPS.. spewy shove ?

First round of FTOPS HU tournament. When this hand comes, we've been playing for approx 10-15 minutes. He doesn't seem used to playing HU and made a few very bad moves. He already made a big raise on the flop at the beginning of the match.

When he raised me on the flop, I thought there are a lot of hands I was beating (draws, Tx and 9x). I think I had an edge on him and I hate going all-in 70 bb deep, but what else could i do here ? I thought that calling would be bad because of many bad turns to come (with me somewhat commited), and fodling would be too week, even that deep and with a slow structure.

Anything I should have done differently or just bad luck ? Your opinion about this hand would help me a lot, thanks ! 

Steve

No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players
FTOPS Event #9

Hand converted by husng.com hand converter - www.husng.com

SB Vilain 2805  
BB Heros 3195  

Effective Stacks: 70bb

Blinds 20/40

  • Pre-Flop (60, 2 players) Hero is BB
  • hAdT
Vilain calls 20, Hero raises to 160, Vilain calls 120
  • Flop (320, 2 players)
  • c9sTs5
Hero bets 160, Vilain raises to 800, Hero goes all-in 3035, Vilain goes all-in 1845
  • Turn (6000, 2 players, 2 all-in)
  • s9
  • River (6000, 2 players, 2 all-in)
  • dJ

 

  • Final Pot: 6000
  • Vilain shows a full house, Fives full of Nines
  • c5h5
  • Hero shows two pair, Tens and Nines
  • hAdT
  • Vilain wins 5610 ( won +2805 )
  • Hero lost -2805
koolimato's picture
Difficult situation

this. Or is it? These come up quite a lot and action is villaindepended. Had the villain limp-called a lot before and with what kind of hands?  Did you get to see his previous hand where he raised big on flop?

If you feel you have an edge maybe this should be a fold at this blindlevel and stacks. And because it is a multiplayertournament. Even if you feel it is too weak. Calling seems not an option. Lot of the draws are favourites here against your single pair. For example: QJs (32/68), KJs (38/62), KQs (39/61), 87s (43/57). Sets and overpairs are crushing you.

But, it is always easy to speculate after. At those moments that TPTK many times looks strong in your eyes and it becomes a tricky spot. I mess these up all the time.

What was the buy-in for that tournament? And what kind of prizestructure? Just curious, maybe would be fun to play.

Any way, GL at the tables.

amv83's picture
Stack Sizes

Hey,

Pretty weird move by villain here obv..

Can we really have him that crushed here that we want to ship it in? for 70bbs?
Perhaps he really sucks at raising for value?

imo this a fold here because our equity can't be that huge against his range of hands that raise our c-bet this much here..

Like obv  if effective stacks were smaller, then I think this would be a bigger gray area... but seriously, you sound like you have an very nice edge on this opponent. With these stack sizes and based on where we are in the tournament, I think folding is the best play, because you'll likely have a much better spot against this guy based on the structure of this tournament down the road..

Just the stacks are too big here esp with your edge against him to really stick it in here comfortably...

Maybe someone with more experience will disagree with me here

Andrew