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Dai's picture
Good strategy against the minraise pre / half pot c-bet

Hi, so this is my first month at husng and must say that the quality of the videos I've seen so far are very high.

I'm wondering about what prefered strategy you use against players who minraises almost every time they are in the sb, and bet out half pot as a c-bet? The minraise forces me to play much more OOP than a 3x, which can be tricky, and the half pot c-bet pretty much does the job without exposing them too much to check raises.

My thoughts so far is to 3-bet more often pre, since these kind of players generally don't want to bloat the pot pre. Also, since it is cheaper to call the c-bet, perhaps floating the flop OOP with intention of bluffing the river (or turn) could be used more often? Thoughts?

xSCWx's picture
You can combat smaller bets

You can combat smaller bets (min-raise, small cbets) by calling lighter than you would have called a bigger bet. You can combat the more frequent bets by raising him because his range will tend to be weaker than that of someone who is betting less hands. You can combat the more frequent bets by calling down lighter as well.

HUST's picture
this is how i play 2xbb pre

this is how i play 2xbb pre and make small cbets i know they are going to call me lose on the flop most of them. But here is a thing i was thinking of should i bet the turn bigger like 2/3 of the pott or should i bet less like 1/2 of the pott? Beacuse there ranges are weaker then if i would bet 2/3 on the flop. I bet 2/3 on turn right now as bluff and if i have a hand beacuse then they know if they call my flop bet a bigger bet is coming on the turn. hope you guys understand what i meen. i play $50-100 turbo hu sngs

so what you guys think is the best play? Allmost always bet turn if flop comes 2-9-k he call my 1/2 flop bet  and turn comes A i bet 2/3 or 1/2 agen ?

Radeh's picture
Love the minraising strategy

Love the minraising strategy :)

2 tips: 

1) Don't fold too much!
2) Don't call too much oop!

The style inuduces the above mistakes from our villains, which is why I like this style.

Your specific counters depend on how comfortable you are post flop, how well you/he plays in raised pots, and how he reacts if you start calling/raising his flop cbets more often.

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Katipo's picture
I'm also curious about this

I'm also curious about this strategy and the flop cbet size. I normally bet 1/2 pot but it feels really wrong on some drawy boards with top pair. However, if I bet more, it would be unbalanced because I don't want to bluff big. Is 2/3 a better size?

jayn's picture
I don't have a perfectly

I don't have a perfectly fixed cbet size. When I cbet, 75% time it's a half pot and 25% time it's 2/3 pot depending on how drawy the board is. Obviously you can't only bet 2/3 when you  have a value hand. I choose my bet size depending on both my own hand and board texture.  However atleast in low stakes (< $100) I haven't realized that half pot cbetting would be a leak and when I see guys like Spamz0r vouching for a half pot cbetting, I really don't think that it's never a leak. Anyway I would love to hear others opinions!

jayn's picture
I don't have a perfectly

double.

kingcobra's picture
First, in regards to min

First, in regards to min PFR's, it's not that you're forced to call more often, it's that it's profitable to call more often.  However players can get in the habit of calling too much here, and as always, it's post flop play that's going to pretty much dictate the frequencies you want here.  For instance, the more aggressive an opponent is post flop the less you're going to want to call, and the more passive he is the more you want to call.  Calling a min raise with a weaker hand that you're just going to have to throw away to pressure post flop for instance doesn't work out that well, but on the other hand if the opponent is playing straightforward IP and not doing a lot of betting then the good implied odds to call will translate a lot better.  On the other hand if you're up against someone who loves to spew chips and will fire 3 barrels lightly for instance, or really pay you off when you hit something, then your implied odds of calling play as well.  So to sum it up, as is the case generally pre flop, the better your opponent plays post flop IP the tighter you want to play pre-flop OOP, and the worse he plays post flop IP, the looser you want to play preflop OOP, if that makes sense ;)