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qattack's picture
How Do I Beat These Guys at $10.50???

I just moved up today and I'm constantly outplayed by players at this level. I guess I'm just an idiot, but THIS guy is a winner over 105 games? He kept calling IP and OOP with hands like this and I still cannot beat him. And yes, he would bluff the river after I call the turn every time.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$10.00+$0.50Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converterBBHero1490 SBNovas0071510 Effective Stacks: 50bbBlinds 15/30

  • Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is BB

Novas007 calls 15, Hero raises to 120, Novas007 calls 90

  • Flop (240, 2 players)

Hero bets 120, Novas007 calls 120

  • Turn (480, 2 players)

Hero checks, Novas007 bets 225, Hero calls 225

  • River (930, 2 players)

Hero checks, Novas007 bets 425, Hero calls 425

  • Final Pot: 1780
  • Hero shows
  • Novas007 shows two pair, Sixes and Fours
  • Novas007 wins 1780 ( won +890 )
  • Hero lost -890
fuseo's picture
Lol, unlucky. But I would of

Lol, unlucky. But I would of bet that turn for value, no reason to check and give free cards.I would of been goining for 3 streets of value there against a fish. 

RyPac13's picture
Lead the flop larger, a small

Lead the flop larger, a small lead doesn't get any more pairs to call or induce any extra raises on Ace high boards.  You can make arguments in other situations to the opposite of that, but not with ace high boards, too many players under value those all the time for a majority of opponents to treat a small cbet as weak here.If you're checking the turn here, I think it's to induce floaters to bluff at the pot, or weaker hands to value bet (depending on your specific opponent type).  If you don't have a clear reason for doing this, leading for value is likely better on the turn, as even a looser floating player will pick up some draws on this flush card and straight card turn.  And just because he's loose on the flop doesn't mean you should check the turn, if he doesn't bluff a lot with those weaker hands, there's really no reason to check to him.Now, I don't know how specific of reads you had in this actual situation, but if he's floating vs cbets and then bluffing on the turn and river a lot, you played it fine, just size your flop a bit larger and consider a turn check raise if he bets and calls with a wide range (IE 2nd or 3rd pair betting AND calling here, it's fishy, yes, but it happens especially at the $5-30 type levels).Otherwise it's just a cooler situation, but that doesn't mean you can't improve your play here so that next time you face this situation you gain a bit more expected value, because in the end that is really the key.