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Should I be shoving here

Should I be shoving here readless   No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$14.69+$0.31 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBPecan69460  BBHero540  Effective Stacks: 23bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB Pecan69 raises to 40, Hero calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, Pecan69 bets 40, Hero goes all-in 500, Pecan69 goes all-in 380 Turn (1000, 2 players, 2 all-in) River (1000, 2 players, 2 all-in) Final Pot: 1000

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J9: i agree w mrbambocha

J9: i agree w mrbambocha here. you don't really fold out anything by betting the turn that called the flop, so i would just check back and realize equity for free. river looks good.Q5: this board misses enough of an oop flatting range at this stack depth for a cbet to be fine. think about all the hands that most players are flatting (correctly) that miss this board: K6 Q7 J5s 85s etc. cbetting half pot only needs to work 33% and we have no sd value, so def a cbet. at shorter eff stx, <15, this board will start to hit the avg flatting range a lot more and i'd prob not cbet at that point.65s: i would just c/c. villain really can't fold A high or K high to your chk/shv, since you really just rep draws/3X which they are committed against. at shorter eff stx i'd like chk/shv more, but thats bc u need less fold equity for ur jam to be correct with shorter stx - but important to note i prob like a 3b shv pre readless more shorter than flatting.  

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25bb deep from the SB with

25bb deep from the SB with QQ. Playing readless, just know this person is a reg. He 3bets 40-80, is this a standard shove? Are there any big pairs you would just flat?

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i'd flat KK/AA, but mainly bc

i'd flat KK/AA, but mainly bc of the card removal - having 2 kings, or esp 2 As makes it harder for villain to have a hand they can call a jam with. also, we dont need to be so worried about villain realizing equity well vs these hands.QQ is kind of close though and vs a very wide 3bettor i like a flat bc of so much fold equity (would 4b JJ tho almost always). without such a huge card removal factor in relation to typical 4b calling range, i like 4betting QQ though.

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Is this too light? We need

Is this too light? We need 37%kdjs - 39.42%a2o-a5o, t6-Tk, 56s, 57s, 76s-qjs, 97s-9js, j8s - 60.58%No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players $29.37+$0.63 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBgosse32406  SBHero594  Effective Stacks: 14bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, gosse32 calls 30   Flop (120, 2 players) gosse32 checks, Hero bets 44, gosse32 goes all-in 346, Hero calls 302   Final Pot: 812 

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How does this range for

How does this range for calling a 15bb shove look:Ax, K7s+, k9o+, Q9s, QTo, JTs for raise/calling 15bb deep:88+,AT+, A8s+, K7s+,K8o+,Q8s+,Q9o+,J9s+,JTo,T9s Once we develop a r/c range, how do we go about determining what % we want to be raise/folding? So for exapmle here we are r/cing 20% of our range. So based on how much we raise/fold we can determine our call 3bet %.

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KJ: no, i think this is super

KJ: no, i think this is super standard. you dominate QJ, and do well vs flush draws - makes perfect sense for a lot of combos like these to play this way. also you have up to 40% equity vs TX combos.definitely a bet/call. 

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How does this range for

How does this range for calling a 15bb shove look:Ax, K7s+, k9o+, Q9s, QTo, JTswe need 46.67% equity to call an openshove 15bb deep (14bb/30bb). so it really depends what we think the avg jamming range is 15 deep. for thinking players, i think it's mostly weak Ax and small pairs still (don't think you see T9s, K3s type stuff nearly often enough to impact your std calling range much).vs a jamming range of A2s-A7s, A2o-A8o, 22-77, this range would be way too wide. for example, KJs doesn't even have correct equity (46.2%) - i'd still call the borderline hands tho, just bc if villain has even a few bluffs in range it makes them ez calls. so i'd be calling a good amount tighter than that on avg.i do think avg play has some bluffs, just not enough for that range...i'd say something like  Ax, KTs+, kJo+definitely expand that quickly as stacks decrease, since openjamming becomes A LOT wider.thoughts on pop tend? 

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i'd say something like   Ax,

i'd say something like  Ax, KTs+, kJo+ Why Ax? Isnt our A-rags gonna be heavily dominated? Id rather call a jam with  KTs+, kJo+  then Ax at 15bb. Or is my reasoning wrong? Wouldnt it be better with something like A6s, A7o? 

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I think I had some middling

I think I had some middling Kx in their shoving range as well. I guess 15bb is a bit wide for a random to be shoving weak hands. Vs a reg we'd be opening up our range susbstantially though right

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i hope you feel like you got a lot out of this program. thanks a lot for participating...i enjoyed working with you. if you have any follow-up questions feel free to email me at gtillerhokie@gmail.comyou will have read-only access for another 4 weeks approximately.good luck

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