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DonNew's picture
Im just spewin on river right?

Villain has played 4440 games with 19%roi!!!! at av. stake of 12$ so he's obviously solid. He had played very tight in some spots in the match never bluffing but also valuebetting quite thin. Guess im only beating worse jacks on river and perhaps some busted flush draws with mid pair, so i should probably check/fold instead of shoving the river right?No Limit Holdem Tournament 2 Players Hand converted by http://husng.com/converter $10.00+$0.50 SBgilfish1 1815 BBHero 1185Effective Stacks: 40bb Blinds15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players)Hero is BB with hQ dJgilfish1 calls 15, Hero raises to 90, gilfish1 calls 60Flop (180, 2 players) s7 h6 sJHero bets 120, gilfish1 calls 120Turn (420, 2 players) c8Hero bets 360, gilfish1 calls 360River (1140, 2 players) hTHero goes all-in 615, gilfish1 calls 615

thepuminator's picture
I am jamming this every time

I am jamming this every time but it may not be right :/. Even though you said he is v-betting light i really doubt hes going to v-bet with worse here and I dont think i can fold TP with 3rd kicker when i bet 2 streets and the pot is already 2x my stack. If u have noticed him limping 78/89/910/810 type hands then i could see a c/f but if he is also limping other hands im jamming.

DonNew's picture
Yeah you right, but he isnt

Yeah you right, but he isnt calling with worse either is he on such a scary board? I still think its ok to attack his limp as i have two cards that can make top pair with a good kicker.

DonNew's picture
Yeah you right, but he isnt

Yeah you right, but he isnt calling with worse either is he on such a scary board? I still think its ok to attack his limp as i have two cards that can make top pair with a good kicker.

thepuminator's picture
Attacking his limp with QJ is

Attacking his limp with QJ is definatley good, would be nice if it was suited but we cant be that picky. It would help if you had some idea of what he is limp/calling with. If he is limping stuff like A6 or A7 and you check he may decide you probably have him beat and jam expecting you to fold a J. Its something I do a lot. Even if he has a hand with showdown value he can expect you to fold all your 1 pair hands, bad 2pairs, and maybe even sets depending on how the match has gone. So even though he can check to get to showdown he can also jam if u check and make sure he wins the pot b/c u dont have many 9s in your range. I just dont think you can fold with 2x your stack in the pot. I either c/c hoping he is turning a hand with marginal showdown value into a bluff or i jam.

DonNew's picture
I definetely see your point,

I definetely see your point, id say he limped around 50% of his hands so it was a pretty wide range, but i think he was merging his limping and min raising range just based on the fact that he had a huge roi over a very large sample. and ur right my perceived range cant include many 9s, cause i didnt attack a lot of his limps, so maybe a shove was alright after all :)

Lucky_Hussle's picture
 I like to blockbet river.

 I like to blockbet river. Like superminibet. He cant raise without a straight. You can save few chips. But standard line is close your eyes and push. I put him on 89, correct?

DonNew's picture
Ah didnt even think of that,

Ah didnt even think of that, thanks for giving me another option :) a blocking bet would also let me know where i stand in the hand. yeah guess the shove is pretty standard i just hate those high variance spots!yep that was the hand he had.

thepuminator's picture
i dont remember how the 10's

i dont remember how the 10's play but a bet of 100 just looks super weak after showing strengh on the flop and turn. "Your basically screaming I am afraid of a 9 please dont shove because i will fold."