I thinkl I played this hand very bad, isn't it better to raise get it in on the flop? $10/$20 No Limit Holdem • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBbrito76$1060.00 SBHero$1940.00 Effective Stacks: 53bb Pre-Flop ($30.00, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to $60.00, brito76 calls $40.00 Flop ($120.00, 2 players) brito76 bets $120.00, Hero calls $120.00 Turn ($360.00, 2 players) brito76 bets $360.00, Hero calls $360.00 River ($1080.00, 2 players) brito76 goes all-in $520.00, Hero calls $520.00 Final Pot: $2120.00 brito76 shows a pair of Sevens Hero shows three of a kind, Eights Hero wins $2120.00 ( won +$1060.00 ) brito76 lost -$1060.00
Raising with intention of getting it in on the flop is excellent, especially if you think his donkbet is strongish.
It depends so much on your opponents donking tendencies. If he is donking out with tons of pair type hands (especially many top pairs) and draws, we should probably just get it in on the flop and expect to get value from a lot of worse hands.On the other hand, if he was mostly c/c with top pairs and passive with any kinds of draws in the past, I would play it more cautiously and just call the flop, especially given his big sizing.
"On the other hand, if he was mostly c/c with top pairs and passive with any kinds of draws in the past, I would play it more cautiously and just call the flop, especially given his big sizing." just because his donking range doesn't include top pair type and draw hands (which btw would be a difficult read to obtain without great sample size.. we have to not level ourselves into over-rating our reads and our perceived tendencies of his behaviour) doesn't mean that it magically consists of monster type hands like 2 pair, made straights and sets that have us crushed. This relates to the concept of a polarised or air range - just because he may be donking 10% of the time doesn't mean he is donk betting the top 10% of his range.Very often in fact if he does not have top pair hands in donking range is likely to have more air/bluff type hands. Relating to this hand playing it cautiously can be quite bad here because obv random hands can have two overs, gutshot outs, etc etc. We have good equity vs any reasonable range and want to GII now.
I would think that against a polarized donking range, calling his donk bet makes more sense because he will fold out every single bluff and will continue and crush us with his monsters. Thats what I was refering to. I agree that a big part of his air range has decent equity against our holding but is protection reason enough to get it in versus very strong hands?If our opponent has top pairs, oesd´s, pair+gs, ... type of hands, we can expect that we will get it in pretty well.Im pretty new to hu sngs, so let me know why my thought process is flawed :).edit: just realized its just 53bb (thought its 73bb) deep which makes raising a lot more attractive. How deep should it be to prefer a call?
w/o any information I would raise this flop with the intention of shoving any turn if flatted.I would need very good reads that this player had alot of weak/drawing hands that would barrel off when they miss turns and rivers but fold if facing a raise.
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I think 80+ I start mixing in calls too in this scenario, so usually in deep stack or HUNL. BTW bear in mind he flatted pre! he does not have many monsters usually here, and we cannot define his range to be purely polarised- hands like A7, A6 etc.. get it in for sure and make larger mistakes and overcards kill our action and put us in shitty spots.