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thepuminator's picture
playing against nash

I just played someone who I knew was playing accroding to nash at 14bb and lower. Are there any adjustments to make to play against it or is my only option to also play nash?

xSCWx's picture
Also play Nash (at least for

Also play Nash (at least for calling), if you are deviating from the calling range then it is giving your opponent a profit.

thepuminator's picture
is there a way to exploit it though

I do usually revert to calling according to nash. but is there anyway to exploit the fact that they are playing nash. I know its supposed to be unexploitable but I would imagine if you know they are using it then there would be a way to counter it.

twostate's picture
its supposed to be

its supposed to be unexploitable you answered your own question :) 

jackoneill's picture
The only thing you can really

The only thing you can really do is trying to outplay him while you're on the button, especially while you're between ~15-12 bb.  You could, for instance, try some minraising/limping strategy against him.


niceiq25's picture
which are the situations when

which are the situations when u guys dont play according to nash? I mean what does the opponent have to do in order to make u dont play nash???

lolskates's picture
I think there are some

I think there are some situations where the opponent is so passive that it's unneccessary to be locked into shove/fold.  Guys with fold to cb on flop ~75%+ you can try limping deck, folding if raised.  Then min bet flop and re-eval vs any action if he doesnt immediately fold.If you're playing cog's style, your limping range is much more merged, so you expect the opponent in the bb to be reshoving a certain range under 15bb if he decides your range is weak.

Katipo's picture
A little unrelated but what

A little unrelated but what do you do if playing NASH and someone raises while you have a hand that is a shove according to NASH? Still shove?

RyPac13's picture
The only thing that is a

The only thing that is a shove on Nash is the small blind, which you either shove or fold yourself.In the BB, the chart is for playing against a player that is only shoving or folding.  Your numbers represent a calling range.That said, if they open, and it's not a huge indicator of strength (compared to say, if they had shoved) just shove your calling range, a little wider if you think you have a bit of fold equity.

kingcobra's picture
The alternative to this is to

The alternative to this is to tighten up your calling ranges at least a bit, I tend to call tighter against this stuff, I've found that this works better against weaker opponents, against a strong opponent I'd recommend calling closer to the Nash ranges.  In terms of shoving ranges, well that depends on the opponent, if it's someone you can push around then I'd do it wider, if it's a loose opponent you need to tighten up, both of these need to be referenced to the advantages you have exploiting him via standard lines.