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cdon3822's picture
Is population bluffing enough here to stack off?

So I 3b NAI with KJo, planning to call a jam readless @ 25BB hoping I can get some dominated holdings to come along and make big errors post flop.

I cbet 5.0 BB into 10.0 BB stacks and get jammed over.

It's 15.0 BB to call so I need 15 / 50 = 30% equity to profitably stack off after cbetting 0.5P in this 3b pot. 

I have 2 over cards + backdoor straight draw against what I assume to be 9x, 8x, some draws and maybe some bluffs because villain just doesn't believe that my 3b NAI range has a piece of this flop and would fold to a jam.

So I stack off, not loving life but figuring it's probably pretty close in expectation (with approx 7 outs = 7 * 2 * 2 = 28% equity) between calling and folding vs villain's value range and if he's ever jamming straight draws or bluffing I have enough equity to call off. 

 

Do you think the population is playing fit or fold in this spot 100% or are they contesting enough with draws/bluffs that this is a snap call off?

Did I make a mistake in the hand?

 

No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players

$3.40+$0.10

Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter

SB douml66 500  
BB Hero 500  

Effective Stacks: 25bb

Blinds 10/20

Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)

Hero is BB

sKcJ

douml66 raises to 40, Hero raises to 100, douml66 calls 60

Flop (200, 2 players)

d8c9s3

Hero bets 100, douml66 goes all-in 400, Hero goes all-in 300

Turn (1000, 2 players, 2 all-in)

hQ

River (1000, 2 players, 2 all-in)

s5

Final Pot: 1000

douml66 shows a pair of Eights

dAh8

Hero shows high card King

sKcJ

douml66 wins 1000 ( won +500 )

Hero lost -500

TheCleaner01's picture
I think it's a common

I think it's a common defensive action of our villain at $3.50 level to jam or, less so, over bet mid pair on a flop like this, especially if they have an Ace high kicker.
Your correct from an EV point, but action of fishy villain says beware !
 
 

Go forth and CRUSH !

PHISH4CHIPS's picture
Im not NAI 3 betting this

Im not NAI 3 betting this hand readless at 25bb as we cant profitably call 4bj from our opponent.
As played you probably just about have enough equity to call vs his entire range but are obviously crushed against top part of this.
I would flat PF, don't mind donk on flop as if we are jammed on think its an easy fold, or flat c-bet reassess turn.

gingervitis's picture
I prefer a flat pre with this

I prefer a flat pre with this hand readless also. cbet smaller and you won't have this problem. My standard non ai-3b sizing would be 90 pre, then 1/3 pot flop n turn. 

cdon3822's picture
Thanks

Thanks for your comments. 
I've recently been giving a lot more thought to bet sizing rather than auto-clicking the 50% pot button.
It could be a case of selective memory but it feels like small cbets in 3b pots get way too much credit on the majority of flops.