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fuseo's picture
Pros going to super turbos...

Hey guys,I notice that a lot of the pros are now playing the superturbos exclusively. Are you guys seeing the STs as more profitable per hour?For those that have gone to the STs exclusively, do you think the greater hourly rate is due to people still learning to adapt to the new format, or is it due to the structural difference between the two (rake and game time). Just some things I've noticed from a few pros I've sharkscoped:STs have a ROI about 2 times lower after rakeback on the STs compared to the turbos.Players are getting in around 2 times more games per hour. STs have more volitilty due to the lower win rates.Let me know what you guys think.Cheers 

thepuminator's picture
I dont play them but I would

I dont play them but I would imagine that you can multitable pretty easily since there is less play when you start shallow.

fuseo's picture
So I would of thought too.

So I would of thought too. But I've heard others mention that they are not better to multitable.

dzikijohnny's picture
On reason might be that the

On reason might be that the superturbos have killed the action in reg and turbos on FTP.  I am there know an know that once I go beyond $30 I will have to switch to PS to get the action I want.

RyPac13's picture
STs are better to multi

STs are better to multi table, as stack sizes are closer together throughout the games (10-25bb stacks) as opposed to turbos or regular speeds (10-50 or 10-75bb).On average for people it tends to be easier to multi table with games up around the same stack size, but it's not the same for all.

dzikijohnny's picture
Does this also mean that FTP

Does this also mean that FTP turbos would be easier to multi? 

RyPac13's picture
In my opinion yes, as stack

In my opinion yes, as stack sizes are often within 10-25bb ranges rather than 10-75bb (0-10bb is usually going to be so simply done by anybody that plays a lot that it shouldn't factor in too much except that you're 0-10bb more often in super turbos which would lend to it being easier as well).Newer players to these games may find that they want to hold off on multi tabling for awhile, as the decisions you constantly face may bring a lot of new or less familiar/standard spots from what you are used to.  After a few hundred of these with a focused mindset as well as some studying with some of the equity programs with various hand ranges the decision making time should be a lot more closer to "instant."By no means does that mean that these games become simple, some of the best players only single table them and don't instantly act on every decision.  But they also have the ability to go through a lot more variables to reach a conclusion, which takes more time, even for a stronger player.

jamjam747's picture
How many tables are being

How many tables are being muti-tabled?