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MorboAgrees's picture
psimalive_vid02 AJ on QJ259 board

I really don't understand the river shove. Surely his range includes a whole load of stuff that calls and beats us like AQ,QJ,KT,QQ,JJ. Skates comments that 'this is really not as thin as you guys think it is'. Could you please explain you thought processes further?

WBR's picture
Yeah, it's really thin valuebet

Not so many worse hands will call this shove. His line also very suspicious - not cbet, quickly called 2 solid bets...  Will be interesting to see more comments from Skate.

Skates's picture
 Yea it's certainly

 Yea it's certainly thin.  The thing is, very few of the hands you mentioned are capable of being played as villain did.  You noted: AQ,QJ,KT,QQ,JJ.  AQ/QJ/KT, if they check the flop, plan to c/r.  QQ/JJ could make sense, but usually c/r turn because I can very easily have a drawing hand.  On the other hand, AJ/KJ/JT certainly play this way, and may sometimes call (or in the case of AJ, might sometimes fold).  Not to mention some other weirdo hands.  Really, the only hands we are afraid of are Q9/J9, but those tend to just jam the river because, as you guys are suggesting, KQ is usually checking back from my position (and if it's not, then you shouldn't be checking back AJ either).
Does that make sense?  A smaller bet, say t350, is probably a better play than a jam.

MorboAgrees's picture
Thanks Skates.

Thanks Skates.