villain: TAG LAG, taggish base but calls way too much. cbets 100%. calls oop pre 65%, when i was raising around 80%.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$3.29+$0.21
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SBprievan980
BBHero2020
Effective Stacks: 49bb
Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)
Hero is BB
prievan raises to 40, Hero calls 20
Flop (80, 2 players)
Hero checks, prievan bets 60, Hero calls 60
Turn (200, 2 players)
Hero checks, prievan bets 150, Hero raises to 380, prievan calls 230
River (960, 2 players)
Hero bets 360, prievan goes all-in 500, Hero calls 140
Final Pot: 1960
would you raise that turn higher? other thoughts about my line?------ 2nd hand same villain---------------------------------------- No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$3.29+$0.21 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBprievan1370 BBHero1630 Effective Stacks: 46bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is BB prievan raises to 60, Hero calls 30 Flop (120, 2 players) Hero checks, prievan bets 90, Hero calls 90 Turn (300, 2 players) Hero checks, prievan checks River (300, 2 players) Hero bets 150, prievan raises to 300, Hero calls 150 Final Pot: 900 prievan shows a full house, Aces full of Eights Hero shows a full house, Aces full of Tens Hero wins 900 ( won +450 ) prievan lost -450 i called only pre cause he was calling raises pre very light and it is most likely i will get overcards on flop. i guess i should have raised that flop? he was cbetting 100% - i only called as i wanted to keep him in the pot. too risky? after review - i bloody should have 4-bet that river i guess. on the other hand he would play that river exactly like this with an A. thoughts to this?
Hi first hand. I think your line here is wery good and your raise on turn is wery good to cause it gives him tough to laid down for that small price and the most inportant, he is comited to he pot on the river since he left with only 50% chips relation to pot size. S your play is perfect. And your bet on river is perfect and size is perfect to players on this limits have hard time to lay down 8 or 9 to, for that price on river. aspecely callinstations.
The first hand is fine except for the river, there's no reason to bet 360 instead of jamming 500. It's not going to change his calling frequency and you're missing out on 140 chips of value every time your hand is good. It's relatively unimportant to save yourself the last 140 chips for the times your hand isn't good, especially if end up calling the jam when he does jam.The second hand is really bad, you need to 3bet preflop. Saying that he calls often and there's going to be an overcard on the flop is basically just saying that you're scared of playing difficult spots. Something like 77 is different since the vast majority of flops are bad for your hand, but something like 99 or TT is going to get plenty of good flops with only one or no overcards, and it's far too good to sacrifice getting those extra chips in ahead before the flop. Postflop, other than because of what his exact hand was, why do you think you were supposed to play the hand differently? I think it was played perfect. Raising the flop is too thin for value and folds out a lot of his low equity bluffs. Calling the river raise seems obviously better than 3betting, he can have some 8x that you beat but also JJ-KK or slowplayed Ax, which are more likely to raise the river in the first place than 8x.
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what a honour to get feed-back of a pro like you :-)and great feed-back. you are right i am probably scared againt rather loose and agressiv players in such spots.but i am not sure how to play these post in situtation like. i raise pre with my TT and flop goes something like QJ8r. i have to cbet? as he can have any hand. he calls, like mostly he does - turn blank or so and then i have no idea where i am at. double barrel? which he most probably will call again and i find myself in a even more uncomfortable situation on the river. or should i just c/c turn and reevaluate on river? but then he will know that i most probably do not hold a Q or may be not even a J and he would most likely donk river big with a blank river card.as you can see, yes, i have really doubts in such situations with reater agressiv and slightly loose but thinking villains.
I think the biggest problem in your analysis of the QJ8r spot is that you're not really discussing what he's calling with, but just speaking as if your opponent is a super hero who is going to do everything you don't want to happen. Don't worry so much about getting a bad result, try to break down his range and what you think is correct against it. If he's calling too often on QJ8r that means he's never folding his 8x hands, his weak straight draws, etc. Maybe he's raising his Qx on the flop? If that's the case we might be able to get 1-2 streets of value and then check/evaluate the river. Is his value betting Jx on a blank runout or is he mostly betting his missed straight draws? Perhaps you're just running into the top of his range the past few matches and he simply hits this board often with his preflop range? In that case we can cbet the flop and try to check down, or check the flop for pot control if we think he won't be very aggressive when given the chance. I know this isn't really an answer to how to play QJ8r with TT but hopefully it gives you an idea of how to think about the spot in a way that should answer a lot of your questions.
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yeah i know his calling range. it was near to 80% pre. so - he could have very well hit the flop and he will not fold to a cbet with hits and with draws or overcards etc. shall i cbet or not? what to do on a blank turn when he is donking quite big, or when he mostly check calls?in general i probably have to cbet and double barrel, when he calls to much. and c/c river. but shall i really risk that many chips against a rather loose villain with a marginal hand? there will be better spots where i am sure to be ahead and getting in a lot of chips.am i wrong?
I'm not sure what you're asking in the first part, aren't we OOP so how can he be donking or check/calling on the turn? As far as the 2nd paragraph, in the case where I said it might be correct to 2brl and c/c the river that's a pretty rare case. First you'd have to know he's calling all his weak straight draws twice and that he's rarely betting on pair on the river. Second you'll need the board to run out clean, no overcards and no 4straight cards. Third you'll need him to actually call twice and bet the river for the pot to be big. All things considered it's not really bloating the pot because it's only going to happen against a specific very loose player type who happens to have a hand to call twice and bet river when it blanks off. My standard line against someone less loose with TT on QJ8 is just to cbet and then check turn and try to showdown on most runouts unless I improve. In that case I expect to get a street of value from 8x or AT type hands and not have them bluff us, while hands like Qx will tend to bet turn and most his weakest hands will fold flop since our cbet looks fairly strong on this board.
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