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freddeman's picture
Realistic ROI for med stakes

Hey guys This is a question to the med high stake grinders. What is a realistic ROI you can achieve in the $60 Turbo HU sng (NOTE: You are a reg and you do 100 % game selection + Max playing 2 tables at once) Keep on grinding boys

jason kiddo's picture
Hi

i dont play turbos but i think a good roi for turbo is anywere between 5-10%. i play reg speeds and good roi is between 10-15%

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184's picture
  Hey fredde... i notice that

 Hey fredde... i notice that u still havnt sent my money u little theiving gypsy fucker.. btw this guy is a little scamming cunt, i staked him for $30 games, i sent him $400 and he ran it up so he owed me $800 odd with my stake back and he was supposed to ship it and he went dark on me and i saw him playing the 200s :O.. obv he lost it all cos its a micro fish.. he deleted me off msn and facebook then just ignored his chat, he also changed his PS name. Pretty shitty.. not even the amount, i just hate thiefs.. anyway i assume he wont write back to this or just change his name like the litte tard he is.. this is his email if anyone feels like abusing him.. frederickheyrman @ hotmail .com

freddeman's picture
LOL !

@184: For the record, his comment has been pulled out of context big !It is true he staked me, with the agreement of 50/50 profit (before him,i've been staked 3 times before & I was always very correct with my stakers) After the stake I did blow up my money at the higher stakes (his money) I'm truely sorry for that & I've said that a miljon times vs dl184, but after I blew up my money @ the higher levels I talked to him about this & i send half of his stake back, why should i pay you all the rest when my profit was -400 $ :s:s & for the screen name change was just about the bonus !!,back then you could change ur name without consequences, stop making me a bad guy sir !

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184's picture
 are u kidding me??? i

 are u kidding me??? i actually said to you if u send my stake back i would forget about the profit etc... i even let u watch my games for nothing.. answered all ur questions about hands.. i only want my money back... what else is there ague about.. u sent $200 back.. so where the other $200?? why did u delete me off msn and FB?? yes cos ur a little scammer.. UR profit was +500 odd man within the agreed games... i didnt stake for any higher only the AGREED limits and games... who in there right mind would let u play guys at 200 with MY money?? u for fucking real??

freddeman's picture
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Why did I deleted you from facebook ! ? You were spamming on my page constantly ! ok if you are so sure 200 $ still belongs to you, then I will send it 2 you. Give me you're account number (bank) and i will deposit the amount(i cant send trough pokerstars caus of the new rules ,(belgium players cant send funds anymore) 

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faradei's picture
spam delete

spam delete

184's picture
  u can dump it to me... no

 u can dump it to me... no chance im gonna give u my bank details obv.. with ur track record.. or get someone to send it. I get the feeling u think ur hard done by here?? I letting u off with the money u ran up which is half mine man.. dont even deny it or talk shit, u said u were gonna ship it, then vanished.. hardly the act of someone who doesnt owe someone money.. so yeah send it to my account then its done and i wont be mentioning it again.

RyPac13's picture
Not sure what's happening

Not sure what's happening here but I'll take a look when I return home tonight.

RyPac13's picture
freddeman, do you mind

freddeman, do you mind explaining again, when the stake started, how much he sent you, what your profit or losses were at the end of the stake and when you lost the money.Also, how much money you sent back so far.Thanks!

Barrin's picture
Ryan, do you really think

Ryan, do you really think this is a topic that should be discussed in a public thread? Discussing things in open forums can put a lot of extra pressure on, which, in the past (in my experience), can easily lead to a shot down and therefore generates a lose-lose situation.

Hi.

RyPac13's picture
Well, they both have provided

Well, they both have provided multiple details, so I'm not so much as asking for new details, but to polish up what they said and clarify the context of those numbers they mentioned and time frames.No reason not to try to resolve the situation if they're both posting here, it sounds like they were close to agreement before and if they are both reasonable people it could easily be a mistunderstanding and this might be the catalyst to resolve this.It won't work if they both don't want to participate though, but if their first posts were any indication, perhaps they just need a public forum to keep each other honest and on track in discussions.

freddeman's picture
I appreciate you're concern

I appreciate you're concern rypac, but its settelt with 184 

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184's picture
  its settled? in what way?

 its settled? in what way? No money has been sent or has been arranged to be sent.. ?

184's picture
  And i will write out the

 And i will write out the whole details again Ryan for Fredde to dispude i assume. He begged me for ages on MSN to stake him until i finally accepted, sent him $400 and we agreed that he would play $30 4 mans for 100 games, he ran it up to $850 inc stake so i was due my stake back plus half the 450 profit so $625 total... fredde said he would ship but never did.. he never came online until i randomly saw him sitting dibasio at $200 and he was igroring chat, he later came on and said he was chat banned obv... sure.. anyway he said he was sorry but he blocked me on msn and he had burned my money by playing higher and that he would give me it back. I was like ok it happens, just give me it back.. about 3 weeks later he sent me $200.. that was the last i got. I then asked him on facebook for it once.. apprantly thats spamming and enough to delete me and change your stars name.. hmm.. learned a valuable lesson anyway.

Barrin's picture
I allways supposed stars does

I allways supposed stars does not allow nick name changes unless it would allow one to figure out the real life name of the owner? Has that been the case?

Hi.

xSCWx's picture
With regard to the original

With regard to the original question: it isn't really answerable without defining what the 100% game selection entails. If you were sitting first I would guess something like 8% is where most of the good regs would fall. This is easy to estimate because you are dealing with the same player pool and there is a limit to how good you can be. The problem with estimating an ROI with 100% player selection is that there is no limit to how bad your opponents can be. You could probably get a 20% ROI if you only nit it up against the hugest bums - it would be awful for your hourly though.

RyPac13's picture
If the story is true 184,

If the story is true 184, then he would owe you another $200 + $225 minimum.If you gave up your profit, that's nice of you, but he should still be paying $200 more back.That is of course assuming that the details are true and nothing is left out, freddeman, please do settle up with 184, you don't want to be handling situations for $200-500 like this.

184's picture
  we await ur respose with

 we await ur respose with baited breath fredde.. that is unless u go dark again....

RyPac13's picture
Lets just give him a chance

Lets just give him a chance to respond, there's no reason for name calling or additional pressure or anything negative, as far as I see you two have a dispute, maybe you both have reasonable points but why not get it settled with the help of some public mediation (or private if you both would rather prefer)?Sometimes it is hard to see the fair resolution when you're involved in a situation like this.

184's picture
  im happy to sit back and

 im happy to sit back and wait what he says now man, I appreciate the involvement aswell man.. ty

184's picture
  Well it looks like he has

 Well it looks like he has went dark again.. just as I expected and pretty much true to form.. :(